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There's a stereotype that fat people are lazy, less intelligent, and of course, they are widely considered unattractive in the west in modern times. But is this stereotype true? Well, laziness is a bit tricky to measure, as self-report cannot be trusted that much, but intelligence we can measure. So what does the science say?
First, the stereotypes. You can find a lot of papers on this stereotype, mostly by academics who are so very, very concerned. Here's a paper about about how research on intelligence and obesity harms "people in bigger bodies", and here's a study just showing the stereotype to be real but weak (r = -.17). Here's a paper showing that even by other children, they were considered "more dislikable, lazy, less intelligent, unalluring and less considerable as playmates". There's even a paper here showing that you can induce stereotype threat to obese people to make their intelligence scores lower (p = .03 for the interaction, of course).
So what about the facts? Well, the same paper above found a correlation of -.26 between working memory and BMI. But we can do better. Apparently, a lot of doctors have been trying to claim reverse causality, i.e., that low intelligence does not make you somewhat likely to become obese, rather obesity makes your intelligence lower! I swear academics are experts in implausible reverse causality theories. Fortunately, Kanazawa carried out a literature review of longitudinal studies where intelligence was measured in childhood and obesity in adulthood, and the correlation was still found. Looks like this for mean BMI:
And for probability of obesity:
The analysis (n = 3026) shows that childhood intelligence has a direct negative effect on BMI and obesity at 51, and its effect is not at all mediated by education or earnings. Childhood intelligence has a significantly negative effect on BMI at 51 even net of education, earnings, mother’s BMI, father’s BMI, childhood social class, sex, and even BMI at age 16. In other words, childhood intelligence has a direct effect on both adult BMI at 51 and BMI change from 16 to 51.
The details are in his earlier 2013 paper. Here's the regression table:
Based on this, we might think the relationship is pretty likely to be causal. I mean, after all, if you have already controlled for parental BMI, education, earning, sex, and even BMI at age 16, then it's hard to think of a plausible confounder that remains. To be fair, the relationship is weak. Without controls it is a mere 0.10 standardized beta, and with all the controls it is 0.04 (p < .05).
Because we are not lazy, I looked at another dataset. Here's the relationship between intelligence measured at age 20 in 4500 American veterans and their BMI at age 38 (Vietnam Experience Study public dataset):
The relationship is again not impressive but it is there. For those wondering about the most obvious potential confounders:
So without controls the standardized beta is -0.04 (very weak), and controlling for height, age, and race, doesn't change that (-0.05), and even controlling for income, education, and unemployment at age 38 doesn't change it (-0.06).
Finally, if the relationship is causal, then it should hold in a sibling analysis too. And we love sibling analyses on this blog. I found one such study:
Wright, L., Davies, N. M., & Bann, D. (2022). The Association Between Cognitive Ability and Body Mass Index: A Sibling-Comparison Analysis in Four Longitudinal Studies. medRxiv, 2022-08.
Background Body mass index (BMI) and obesity rates have increased sharply since the 1980s. While multiple epidemiologic studies have found higher adolescent cognitive ability is associated with lower adult BMI, residual and unobserved confounding due to family background may explain these associations. We used a sibling design to test this association accounting for confounding factors shared within households.
Methods We used data from four cohort studies: the National Longitudinal Study of Youth 1979 (NLSY-79), the NLSY-79 Children and Young Adult, the NLSY 1997 (NLSY-97) and the Wisconsin Longitudinal Study (WLS); a total of 12,250 siblings from 5,602 households. We used random effects within-between (REWB) and residualized quantile regression (RQR) models to compare between- and within-family estimates of the association between adolescent cognitive ability and adult BMI (20-64 years).
Results In REWB models, moving from 0th to 100th percentile of adolescent cognitive ability was associated with −1.89 kg/m2 (95% CI = −2.41, −1.37) lower BMI between families. Adjusting for family socioeconomic position reduced the association to −1.23 (−1.79, −0.66) points. However, within families the association was just −0.13 (−0.70, 0.45) points. This pattern of results was found across multiple specifications, including analyses conducted in separate cohorts, models examining age-differences in association, and in RQR models examining the association across the distribution of BMI.
Conclusion The association between high adolescent cognitive ability and low adult BMI was substantially smaller in within-family compared with between-family analysis. The well-replicated associations between cognitive ability and subsequent BMI may largely reflect confounding by family background factors.
They aggregated a bunch of datasets with intelligence and BMI, and they find that the relationship 'goes away' within families! Well, at least the p value is > .05. So it is causal or not? Here we must be causal not to fall pray to the lower precision fallacy commonly seen in family studies. Note that the sibling effect size was estimated between "−0.13 (−0.70, 0.45)", so their data includes in the 95% confidence interval a negative value up to -0.70, which does in fact slightly overlap with their regression result with controls for family SES "−1.23 (−1.79, −0.66)". As such, they haven't proven the relationship is entirely spurious, but it is not likely so large. Unfortunately, despite using 12k sibling they still don't have enough precision to say for sure. As always, the way forward here is to get more data. For some reason they didn't use the Add Health dataset (also public), or UK Biobank (not public), though both have BMI and intelligence measures. The UK Biobank alone has 20k sibling pairs, so it would make a substantial improvement to this analysis.
Setting aside the issue of causality, it is nevertheless true that the stereotype is confirmed by the existing research insofar as intelligence is concerned. But before you go out and act on this belief, note what happened to fellow high decoupler Geoffrey Miller who wrote this tweet in 2013:
That he shouldn't have done! You can guess what happened, but here's some headlines: The Fat-Shaming Professor: A Twitter-Fueled Firestorm, Fat-Shaming in Academe, How Twitter Schooled an NYU Professor About Fat-Shaming. His punishment was the usual sort of thing: University of New Mexico censures Geoffrey Miller, a psychology professor, for his infamous fat-shaming tweet. He will be barred from admissions decisions and must undergo sensitivity training. So, keep your belief to yourself, but still assign fat applicants a weak lower prior for competence. This is what one has to do when discrimination based on objectively true criteria is forbidden, and it's just as true whether that is race, sex, sexual orientation, height, or what have you. But before you go too crazy, remember that a correlation of maybe 0.10 is not much of a good prior. It's basically a decider in case you have two otherwise equal candidates.
Are fat people dumb?
1. Fatness can decrease intelligence. Inflammation, plaque, etc all affect the cardiovascular system, and hence also the brain.
2. Fatness is variable. Brown fat. Visceral fat. Subcutaneous fat. Fat-adapted cold hunters with high metabolism. Though generally, the fat the majority of people possess in excess is bad (not simply a store of calories for famine/lack of food).
3. The propensity to care about physical features (in a maximally sexually attractive manner for short-term mating) is slightly inversely correlated to an increase in intelligence. Going to gym, etc.
4. Intelligence enables one to have higher incomes when combined with other personality traits; a higher income affords better food selection, more nutrition, a home gym, excerise, opportunities to be out in the sun, hence an indirect
negative correlation to excess fat.
5. Intelligence has a variable effect, mediated by cultures. In asia, it is more likely to be correlated with MOBA games (propensity for mental stimulation) than scholarly efforts for recreational time, hence an indirect correlation
with fatness. Furthermore, if one lives in Japan the portion sizes are smaller, likewise in EU certain additives are banned so food might be less enticing/less appetizing vs North America. Intelligence enables one to cognitively
understand nutritionally the food differences, and act on those choices, although willpower is variable amongst people (to not gorge calories).
6. Intelligent parents are more likely to be more choosy of their offsprings' environment, and their offspring also inherits this level of choosiness. Thus, more sports, more excerise, more opportunities, more variety of foods (not just junk),
thus a slight negative correlation with fatness.
7. Lacking intelligence means less likelihood of having income, and also less being able to understand one's health risks/benefits on a proportional basis, with less impulse control. All combined synergetic factors point to a high
correlation with fatness (in the low end).
8. Eating well and having nutritionally good food also boosts an offspring's intelligence (from a neurodevelopmental standpoint) up to their genetic potential, one can likely observe this effect from one's parents vs one's offspring,
at least in Asia/other countries going to NA and being taller/scoring better on tests/etc. General fitness is a proxy for intelligence to some extent.
9. Higher intelligence also means higher openness, which might mean less propensity to be affected by social norms, or more ability to tolerate dysgenic trends, hence a slight positive correlation to fatness for fat acceptance in NA.
Norms might be stricter in other countries where being fat affords you less opportunities, so a higher intelligence would understand such norms and thus be a slightly stronger negative correlation to fatness. On the other hand if you
are in an extraverted culture like South America and where the available foods are all nutritionally dense, you still would be more fat relative to you being somewhere else.
10. Intelligence also affords you to consider many other things which are not perceivable at lower levels of intelligence, while at average or low levels of intellect one can be a 'gym' master, you may have other competing mental interests;
research, academics, gaming, theorizing, observing, esoteric hobbies -- thus this can have a slight negative effect on you attending gyms/having a home gym and being more fat because of a lessened interest in body physique.
11. One usually observes fat and shorter people than the inverse, tall and fat (which also correlates with a lack of intelligence)
Overall there are many confounding factors; availability of foods, variety of foods, cultural norms, impulse control, income level, propensity for mental stimulation, acknowledgement of sexual attraction, etc.
perhaps another way of considering this might be whether people judged "good looking" have higher intelligence test scores than those judged by others as less good looking.
In our society fit, not fat seems to be judged as "good looking." I expect there are studies out there to confirm.