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Conversation with Miao about guidance, selection of students, epistemology of getting rid of bad meme complexes
[11:22:42] The Midget - Miao: Who the fuck is Isstsidwmnh?
[11:23:09] The Midget - Miao: [05:52:19] Isstsidwmnh: We have no capacity to falsify the existence of reality. That does not mean we throw away reality. In fact… that means we embrace it!
[05:52:32] Isstsidwmnh: If something is too obviously true, then my only criticism is that it will get boring too soon.
[05:57:04] Isstsidwmnh: But, anyway, all this seems to be scientific values projected onto what can be acceptable described as a non-scientific work.
[11:23:12] The Midget - Miao: WTF.
[11:23:35] Emil - Deleet: its I said stupid things so i dont want my name here
[11:23:37] Emil - Deleet: -guy
[11:24:11] The Midget - Miao: At least he knows he said stupid things
[11:24:17] The Midget - Miao: I stopped reading after that part
[11:24:22] Emil - Deleet: dont do that
[11:24:30] Emil - Deleet: u need to stop stopping reading too early
[11:24:45] The Midget - Miao: You are very patient with him!
[11:25:15] Emil - Deleet: im a very patient person
[11:25:16] Emil - Deleet: err
[11:26:02] The Midget - Miao: In that conversation you actually sounded very nurturing and patient
[11:26:15] The Midget - Miao: which is quite different from my impression of you
[11:28:17] Emil - Deleet: im a guiding light for lesser minds
[11:28:39] Emil - Deleet: if i had zero tolerance like u, then they wudnt develop at all
[11:28:49] The Midget - Miao: Yes, but you are also very selective of who you talk to
You don't talk to ALL stupid people who happen to cross your path
[11:28:56] Emil - Deleet: ofc not
[11:28:58] Emil - Deleet: waste of time
[11:29:05 | Edited 11:29:09] The Midget - Miao: Yes, so what are the selection requirements?
[11:29:11] Emil - Deleet: it isnt even high iq
[11:29:12] Emil - Deleet: :P
[11:29:26] Emil - Deleet: those two filosofy students that i know, they arent high
[11:29:47] Emil - Deleet: but they show tremendous progress
[11:29:53] The Midget - Miao: Yup, what I meant was:
Why are you more kind towards a Freud supporter than a Christian (for example)
[11:29:54] Emil - Deleet: what they needed was guidance
[11:30:09] Emil - Deleet: and a bit of open mindedness and willingness to read a lot of stuff
[11:30:17] The Midget - Miao: Hm.
[11:30:21] Emil - Deleet: xtians are usually hopeless
[11:30:21] The Midget - Miao: Fair enough
[11:30:28] Emil - Deleet: freudian supporters not always
[11:30:49] Emil - Deleet: the freudian complex (HAH!) is more easy to get rid off
[11:31:23] Emil - Deleet: in terms of web of belief, its becus it doesnt integrate so well with the persons other beliefs
[11:31:45] Emil - Deleet: hence, easier to reject - becus it requires a smaller number of changes to beliefs and their connections
[11:32:07] Emil - Deleet: a smaller overhaul of the web of belief, to say it in a more figurative way
[11:32:20] The Midget - Miao: Understandable. If you look at philosophers of religion like Platinga and an Inwagen you'd realise that their arguments are often very convoluted
[11:32:37] The Midget - Miao: because their religious beliefs are very inconsistent with what they know
[11:33:03] The Midget - Miao: So they come up with a lot of very twisted arguments to try to weave a coherent whole
[11:33:26] Emil - Deleet: i think Plantingas modal ontological argument is rather easy to deal with - it 'only' requires some understanding of equivocation, alethic (S5) modal logic !
[11:33:42] Emil - Deleet: thats little compared to some other arguments.
[11:33:54] Emil - Deleet: say, arguments from design require a lot of biology, cosmology etc. to deal with
[11:34:26] The Midget - Miao: I forgot the exact contents of his modal ontological argument
[11:34:48] Emil - Deleet: http://analyticabstraction.blogspot.dk/2007/11/philosophy-of-religion-2-natural_14.html