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Leo Hesting's avatar

My father fought in WWII, in the Asian Theatre. He helped take back the Bataan peninsula, for example. He said that when they trapped the "Japs" (the term at that time) for example in a cave, the Lieutenant would tell them "Come out!". They never came out. Dad and his company then had to incinerate them with flamethrowers.

Dad was Catholic; he went to the chaplain, saying "I don't think this is right." The chaplain replied "This is your duty." Dad said "I still don't think it's right."

At the end of dad's life, he died due to an overdose of radiation therapy. It took 18 excruciating months of internal burn pain, before he did die. He told me "I hope that I never hurt any of those men as bad as I'm hurting."

On my mom's side of the family, in occupied Poland, my cousins were young boys and one time threw rocks at German soldiers passing by on motorcycles. Their dad (my uncle or actually half-uncle) beat them (his sons, my cousins) pretty bad. Like spanking but worse. He told them that they could get the whole family killed, which was true. None of my immediate family were killed but a more distant "great uncle" of mine was one of the officer corps killed by the Russians at Katyn. For those who don't know the incident, the Russians (or the USSR) intentionally decapitated both the Polish intelligentsia and the officer corps. Their plan was to keep Poles under servitude, squelch resistance.

That period of the Katyn massacre was interesting from an historical and "totalitarian propaganda" point of view. It was the Germans during WWII who unearthed (literally) the Katyn massacre and correctly pointed out that the Russians had committed the massacre. But the Russians blamed it on the Germans. It was an odd situation of the detested German beast actually telling the truth during wartime.

In fact the USSR/Russians/communists kept up the lie until the fall of communism. Poles knew who was guilty but all official sources claimed that the Germans/Nazis/Hitlerites (terms varied) did it.

I never did like the Woke folk but they did have one point - there's a relationship between lies/propaganda/PR, and violence.

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Harold's avatar

My Oma told me that in the Netherlands they had regularly fed German soldiers. I doubt it’s because they wanted to, but she said it wasn’t extremely adversarial. One story she shared is that one German soldier during dinner time misfired his gun while showing her father. He almost shot her sister in a high chair. The German left crying and apologizing.

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