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Mark's avatar

You might want to check the results of Germany shaving of the last year of Gymnasium/Abitur for some years and often adding it back "Because students too stressed". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abitur_after_twelve_years

I never heard of any actual number how much more/less was "learned".

I send my kids to school because a) I must. Home-schooling et al. are illegal in Germany.

b1) I want the daycare. School-lessons are an awful way to day-care kids and an awfully expensive way on top. But I want the kids out of the house, away from minecraft, Mr Beast and worse for some hours a day. Preferably for even more hours - in Germany the ""more" is called OGS ("offene Ganztagsschule", better translated as "optional-afternoon-school-time" - including lunch, help with homework but NOT lessons). The tricky thing: In my town too many on the waiting list - and as my wife is busy at home: no chance. Having a baby does not count as an excuse.

b2) There are no longer enough kids in the direct neighborhood to just step out of the door and play. (How I miss the seventies.) So I send them of to "supervised free-time-options", amap.

c) Sure, they do learn some stuff in school. Very slowly. Not very efficiently. As there are many kids who struggle with German, reading/writing has become snail-pace. Other stuff seems beyond the age level (two are in primary school). As my kids are less bookish/nerdish than I was: Better, someone else works with them on that. I can not muster the patience, when it is about my own kids.

As soon as they discover books or blogs like yours, I will have their back when they start to miss classes.

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This was very interesting--thank you. I am a former public high school teacher (for 16 years) and I couldn't agree more that far too much of the school day is a waste. I think this is particularly true of middle school. I was 'old school,' in terms of my expectations and personal performance, and I have no regrets, but all that effort amounted to constantly swimming upstream, since so few other teachers held the same standards, and almost no administrators did. I have felt for many years that the entire education system is beyond antiquated and needs a major overhaul, but this article correctly identifies the reasons we'll probably never see it. Along with the fact that the bureaucracies at every level of government have become self-perpetuating--a lot of salaries to pay and justify--what are we going to do with the kids if they're not in school?? It's a mess, for sure. (By the way--I mentioned that I was a teacher, so I can't help myself--"lead" should be "led" in those sentences indicating that a certain condition produced certain outcomes. "Lead" is either the metal, or the present tense of the verb: "A will lead to B." Past tense of the verb is spelled "led." A led to B. :)

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