I don't think the predictive power is ever what has made IQ more compelling. It is how we think about choice and possibility.
If you predict that someone will fail to become an engineer because they aren't conscientious enough people treat that as something they are choosing. It feels like they could just put in more effort, focus more of details or whatever. If you tell them they will fail because they lack the IQ to be an engineer it feels like you are saying to them they aren't good enough or they are inferior in some way.
Basically, we care about IQ because we’d all like to be smarter but we don't all want to have different big 5 traits. We may vaguely say we want to be less lazy but at each time we choose to be lazy it feels like a choice we make while not being as quick to get a solution or see a possibility feels like something we'd like to do but can't.
Imo an underrated aspect of personality literature is the combination of likely high heritability of personality plus high inter-decade within age cohort personality ranking (people get more conscientious and less neurotic as they age, but that happens to everyone - major personality shifts relative to your age cohort are rare).
The implication is that telling someone at thirty that all they have to do is go from 3rd percentile conscientiousness to 50th, is equivalent to telling someone at 70 IQ to raise it to 100. Good luck with that.
1. IQ is highly heritable, largely genetically based, and largely immutable (can’t be taught, can’t be changed).
2. Different racial/lineage groups have significantly/profoundly different mean IQ’s.
3. Sub-Saharan Africans, for example, as a broad group have (with Aboriginals) the lowest IQ among the races (mean 70-73).
4. People with IQ’s of 70-73 are unable to effectively function in, much less contribute to, contemporary civil societies/economies, and when present in large numbers, degrade the productivity and functioning of such societies.
Other groups average 85-90 or less, and thus will struggle and see very few members of their group succeeding across most domains in a technical, meritocratic society. Painful.
5. People with low IQ did not “earn” it, and are human beings with thoughts and feelings. People who are fortunate—lucky—to have been born healthy, smart, and within a civilized society did not “deserve” this good fortune.
So, it is rightly perceived as “unfair” that entire groups of humans have been dealt by nature such a weak hand. Nature doesn’t do “fair”. And we hate that.
6. The developed/civilized world keeps trying to remedy this painful problem with little to no success (see 1, above).
7. There are no “win-win” options available at present, or in the foreseeable future.
So, of course thoughtful people hate this. I hate it. But we need to deal with it. How?
Do selective breeding and crank out an army of geniuses to make transhumanism happen. That's basically the only practical way to flatten differences from genetic dispositions. Pressure average families to be surrogate parents to embryos created from the gametes of geniuses. Tell them of the financial rewards of adopting a genius kid who will probably get a high earning career.
I grew up with a former child prodigy, his interests were chemistry, computer hardware, software (especially AI). He was super depressed and I told him he could easily get a well paying job in the tech industry. After 3 years of pointless depressing suffering, he finally searched for a job, attained it and is doing very well in his career. That makes me glad. His real father left him early and his mom is average.
His bottleneck was just mental issues. Whenever geniuses whine about being smart, I want to slap them silly, they have an extremely practical, god-like trait!
I really find it disgusting that we waste so much high quality human capital with our culture. Lazy 130 IQ+ers should be forced into a bootcamp of sorts. Give them liberty back once they get their shit together.
We should get genius chad and genius stacey to become sperm/egg donors and make lots of beautiful, smart embryos for surrogacy. Pressure normal families to adopt and raise some of these kids as their own. Remind them that the whiz kid will probably get a high earning career for them to leech off of, so it is a smart investment.
Cranking out an army of geniuses will help us reach civilizational milestones like very long lifespans, reuniting with some dead loved ones, better leisurely activities, better QOL, blah blah.
I am only like about 1 SD above average. May as well cuck out to 6ft+ gym nerd chad with blonde hair, blue eyes, an idea north european phenotype, Taylor swift fan and is not racist. Then combine his seed with genius stacey egg. Then me and my queer, diverse polycule raise some of these kids together!
I'm sure that most children these days are suffering under darkened intellect, damaged judgements, recall, prudence, focus, and most other mental faculties, mind-crushing levels that did not exist back or before early 1970s when society was Sane, virtuous-valued, trusting safe society were fathers were the rule and mothers and most women were not delusionally baby-murdering accepting insane.
I've written this up here.
Ever wonder Why is this world insane, most women and the children they raised are so Sick?
You missed the most significant Jung's influence and concept that so Sickens our nation and perhaps most of West .. the 'devouring mother'. In this masculine rejecting Feminized level of nightmare we live in; fatherless children and young child education that is now never lighten with masculine presence so the predators can mind-rape their childhood victims without fear of being discovered and what would have been Witch trials.
The public school system (as well as too many fatherless families) has become a psychological abuse system with one major goal - to retard adulthood and extend infancy 'Devouring Mother' where 28 year olds are still stalling starting life while psychologically still breast-feeding, filled with programs of how to feel, not how to think, so 'men without chests' feelie-thinkys.
I recently used AI to first list what a K-12 education should cover, then paired it down to k-8th and argued that replace most of the touchy-feelie delusional women teachers and admin with get the job done focused men teachers (and the few women that can hold even with those men) and any child that can't keep up with that rate must go away into a different 'pepper-picking' education track and not hold back the class.
At end of 8th grade a systematic test given and the top 15% get university track free of cost, it they want and if they are good enough can extend to Masters and PhD. Starting in 8th grade like was normal 150 years ago when Latin and Greek was expected to a large degree by 8th grade.
Those other 85% go into trades or such so by age 20 they may be earning a level that can marry and start a family, men at 20 marrying women at 16 for example, throw out a bunch of children that bother their parents mostly raise, and march into full productive adulthood without all the Witch-Evil Mind-raping that is standard today.
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And what about effects of poverty? Who can we know has greatly driven poverty?
I've tracked down the information to argue that since 1979 Gov and corp have been silencing and impoverishing regular people. If Synagogue of Satan Zionist and other minions had left well enough alone, you would not believe how much better we all and our nation would have been. Listen for taste, read for truth.
I had a series (roughly 1300 people) where self reports of team roles was compared with observer based evaluations. I made sure each person got at least 6 observers. There was so little overlap that when giving feedback I told people to concentrate on what their observers had reported about them
1. IQ is highly heritable, largely genetically based, and largely immutable (can’t be taught, can’t be changed).
2. Different racial/lineage groups have significantly/profoundly different mean IQ’s.
3. Sub-Saharan Africans as a broad group have (with Aboriginals) the lowest IQ among the races (mean 70-73).
4. People with IQ’s of 70-73 are unable to effectively function in, much less contribute to, contemporary civil societies/economies, and when present, degrade the productivity and functioning of such societies.
5. People with low IQ did not “earn” it, and are human beings with thoughts and feelings. So, it is rightly perceived as “unfair” that entire groups of humans have been dealt by nature such a weak hand.
6. The developed/civilized world keeps trying to remedy this painful problem with little to no success (see 1, above).
7. There are no “win-win” options available at present, or in the foreseeable future.
8. Folks in civilized societies have seen and are seeing that nothing much can be done, and that bringing or allowing massive numbers of relatively low-IQ people, who also are (to be expected) culturally and in all other ways very distant from the mainstream, civilized culture and group, degrades and will ultimately destroy the host society.
When I was an older boy I tested at 136. Not anymore, I'm sure, at 62+ with a life full of TBI (physical and chem) and a near death. I struggled with dyslexia until I did not. It's the first story in this AI generated audio overview of a part of my journal.
I don't think the predictive power is ever what has made IQ more compelling. It is how we think about choice and possibility.
If you predict that someone will fail to become an engineer because they aren't conscientious enough people treat that as something they are choosing. It feels like they could just put in more effort, focus more of details or whatever. If you tell them they will fail because they lack the IQ to be an engineer it feels like you are saying to them they aren't good enough or they are inferior in some way.
Basically, we care about IQ because we’d all like to be smarter but we don't all want to have different big 5 traits. We may vaguely say we want to be less lazy but at each time we choose to be lazy it feels like a choice we make while not being as quick to get a solution or see a possibility feels like something we'd like to do but can't.
Imo an underrated aspect of personality literature is the combination of likely high heritability of personality plus high inter-decade within age cohort personality ranking (people get more conscientious and less neurotic as they age, but that happens to everyone - major personality shifts relative to your age cohort are rare).
The implication is that telling someone at thirty that all they have to do is go from 3rd percentile conscientiousness to 50th, is equivalent to telling someone at 70 IQ to raise it to 100. Good luck with that.
True true and yet again true.
Why is this so difficult to mainstream? Because:
1. IQ is highly heritable, largely genetically based, and largely immutable (can’t be taught, can’t be changed).
2. Different racial/lineage groups have significantly/profoundly different mean IQ’s.
3. Sub-Saharan Africans, for example, as a broad group have (with Aboriginals) the lowest IQ among the races (mean 70-73).
4. People with IQ’s of 70-73 are unable to effectively function in, much less contribute to, contemporary civil societies/economies, and when present in large numbers, degrade the productivity and functioning of such societies.
Other groups average 85-90 or less, and thus will struggle and see very few members of their group succeeding across most domains in a technical, meritocratic society. Painful.
5. People with low IQ did not “earn” it, and are human beings with thoughts and feelings. People who are fortunate—lucky—to have been born healthy, smart, and within a civilized society did not “deserve” this good fortune.
So, it is rightly perceived as “unfair” that entire groups of humans have been dealt by nature such a weak hand. Nature doesn’t do “fair”. And we hate that.
6. The developed/civilized world keeps trying to remedy this painful problem with little to no success (see 1, above).
7. There are no “win-win” options available at present, or in the foreseeable future.
So, of course thoughtful people hate this. I hate it. But we need to deal with it. How?
Do selective breeding and crank out an army of geniuses to make transhumanism happen. That's basically the only practical way to flatten differences from genetic dispositions. Pressure average families to be surrogate parents to embryos created from the gametes of geniuses. Tell them of the financial rewards of adopting a genius kid who will probably get a high earning career.
Don't disagreee with the broader message, but specific talent (e.g. skill at maths, music, sports, etc) matters more than intelligence itself.
I grew up with a former child prodigy, his interests were chemistry, computer hardware, software (especially AI). He was super depressed and I told him he could easily get a well paying job in the tech industry. After 3 years of pointless depressing suffering, he finally searched for a job, attained it and is doing very well in his career. That makes me glad. His real father left him early and his mom is average.
His bottleneck was just mental issues. Whenever geniuses whine about being smart, I want to slap them silly, they have an extremely practical, god-like trait!
I really find it disgusting that we waste so much high quality human capital with our culture. Lazy 130 IQ+ers should be forced into a bootcamp of sorts. Give them liberty back once they get their shit together.
FIRST. SORRY, ILL READ IT NOW LOL.
We should get genius chad and genius stacey to become sperm/egg donors and make lots of beautiful, smart embryos for surrogacy. Pressure normal families to adopt and raise some of these kids as their own. Remind them that the whiz kid will probably get a high earning career for them to leech off of, so it is a smart investment.
Cranking out an army of geniuses will help us reach civilizational milestones like very long lifespans, reuniting with some dead loved ones, better leisurely activities, better QOL, blah blah.
I am only like about 1 SD above average. May as well cuck out to 6ft+ gym nerd chad with blonde hair, blue eyes, an idea north european phenotype, Taylor swift fan and is not racist. Then combine his seed with genius stacey egg. Then me and my queer, diverse polycule raise some of these kids together!
I study sexual orientation/interests. Self report is Queen here. King, when possible, is measurement of genital arousal patterns to relevant stimuli.
I'm sure that most children these days are suffering under darkened intellect, damaged judgements, recall, prudence, focus, and most other mental faculties, mind-crushing levels that did not exist back or before early 1970s when society was Sane, virtuous-valued, trusting safe society were fathers were the rule and mothers and most women were not delusionally baby-murdering accepting insane.
I've written this up here.
Ever wonder Why is this world insane, most women and the children they raised are so Sick?
AI generated audio overview of article;
https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/dcc1110c-6fdc-4966-a0a6-10948155a59c/audio
"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2220:, 9th July 2025, A Letter to Traditional Catholic Bishops, Calling for Champions."
https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2220
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You missed the most significant Jung's influence and concept that so Sickens our nation and perhaps most of West .. the 'devouring mother'. In this masculine rejecting Feminized level of nightmare we live in; fatherless children and young child education that is now never lighten with masculine presence so the predators can mind-rape their childhood victims without fear of being discovered and what would have been Witch trials.
The public school system (as well as too many fatherless families) has become a psychological abuse system with one major goal - to retard adulthood and extend infancy 'Devouring Mother' where 28 year olds are still stalling starting life while psychologically still breast-feeding, filled with programs of how to feel, not how to think, so 'men without chests' feelie-thinkys.
I recently used AI to first list what a K-12 education should cover, then paired it down to k-8th and argued that replace most of the touchy-feelie delusional women teachers and admin with get the job done focused men teachers (and the few women that can hold even with those men) and any child that can't keep up with that rate must go away into a different 'pepper-picking' education track and not hold back the class.
At end of 8th grade a systematic test given and the top 15% get university track free of cost, it they want and if they are good enough can extend to Masters and PhD. Starting in 8th grade like was normal 150 years ago when Latin and Greek was expected to a large degree by 8th grade.
Those other 85% go into trades or such so by age 20 they may be earning a level that can marry and start a family, men at 20 marrying women at 16 for example, throw out a bunch of children that bother their parents mostly raise, and march into full productive adulthood without all the Witch-Evil Mind-raping that is standard today.
--
And what about effects of poverty? Who can we know has greatly driven poverty?
I've tracked down the information to argue that since 1979 Gov and corp have been silencing and impoverishing regular people. If Synagogue of Satan Zionist and other minions had left well enough alone, you would not believe how much better we all and our nation would have been. Listen for taste, read for truth.
AI generated audio overview of article;
https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/9fc1b713-4c44-49bd-9c29-04fc3fe09744/audio
"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2223:, 14th July 2025, State's Organized Planned Disempowerment of the American Citizen"
https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2223
Feedback welcomed.
God Bless., Steve
Doesn't that sound better?
I had a series (roughly 1300 people) where self reports of team roles was compared with observer based evaluations. I made sure each person got at least 6 observers. There was so little overlap that when giving feedback I told people to concentrate on what their observers had reported about them
True true and yet again true.
Why is this so difficult to mainstream? Because:
1. IQ is highly heritable, largely genetically based, and largely immutable (can’t be taught, can’t be changed).
2. Different racial/lineage groups have significantly/profoundly different mean IQ’s.
3. Sub-Saharan Africans as a broad group have (with Aboriginals) the lowest IQ among the races (mean 70-73).
4. People with IQ’s of 70-73 are unable to effectively function in, much less contribute to, contemporary civil societies/economies, and when present, degrade the productivity and functioning of such societies.
5. People with low IQ did not “earn” it, and are human beings with thoughts and feelings. So, it is rightly perceived as “unfair” that entire groups of humans have been dealt by nature such a weak hand.
6. The developed/civilized world keeps trying to remedy this painful problem with little to no success (see 1, above).
7. There are no “win-win” options available at present, or in the foreseeable future.
8. Folks in civilized societies have seen and are seeing that nothing much can be done, and that bringing or allowing massive numbers of relatively low-IQ people, who also are (to be expected) culturally and in all other ways very distant from the mainstream, civilized culture and group, degrades and will ultimately destroy the host society.
9. We cannot en masse live together.
When I was an older boy I tested at 136. Not anymore, I'm sure, at 62+ with a life full of TBI (physical and chem) and a near death. I struggled with dyslexia until I did not. It's the first story in this AI generated audio overview of a part of my journal.
https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/d3d50ae1-20db-4749-8c7b-6ce30c248e7b/audio
God Bless., Steve
Excellent. Thanks.