So interesting. My cousin shared with me that he knew Terman at Stanford. My cousin was a founder of HP Labs in Palo Alto. In 2nd grade I was identified gifted in the 70s. I found a letter from the school district recommending I enter a gifted program at a different school. My father never showed me the letter or told me… I did skip third grade at that school.. but the tragedy was we moved our family. I went to a new school and they told me that you have to go to school with people your age and they put me back and I ended up with clinical depression in fourth grade. I maintained that depression until I was 21 and had a spiritual experience. When I was in college at 18, I was able to take tests and not study for them and just know the answers. In my own words I was grabbing the answers from the morphogenic field. I just knew them, the test answers in any field, either would hear a voice in my mind or see a picture of the answer or just understand naturally the gestalt of the subject matter and question.
I can tell you intelligence is vastly misunderstood. All under the false premises that we’re all equal, we’re not. We have equal inherent value as God‘s children only. Today there are false manufactured social pressures to focus on the least among us and forget about the rest.
“… social pressures to focus on the least among us and forget about the rest.”
Yep, and ironically as Terman prophesied, such misplaced pressures will inevitably result in a poorer outcome for the disadvantaged (least) among us. A fairly good summary of why can be read in Dutton’s book, “The Genius Famine”—again specifically acknowledged by Terman.
Get genius chad and genius stacey to become sperm/egg donors. Make embryos. Get average families to cuck out and raise them. Pair with a new ideology and create a social contagion.
Tell average families that their genius kid will get a high earning career early, and make lots of money for them to leech off of. And that cranking out an army of geniuses will reach civilizational milestones such as very long lifespans, better economics, transhumanism and better leisure.
It's tragic that HBD has been known for the last hundred years but it's still not accepted. On the contrary the penalties for talking about this well proven stuff are getting harsher and harsher.
Science just slaughters crappy beliefs once the evidence and explanation is there. Darwin murdered creationism which is a huge achievement.
We should be getting genius chad and genius stacey to become gamete donors and make embryos for surrogacy/adoption. Pressure average families to adopt these children, and that they will probably get high earning careers for them to leech off of. So it is also a great investment financially.
Let them know that cranking out an army of geniuses will help is reach civilizational milestones like reuniting with some dead loved ones, better culture, longer lifespans, new leisurely activities, etc.
“UNTIL recently there had not been, at least for hundreds of years, any marked tendency in the civilized countries for one class to produce more children than another.”
Wonderful “blast from the past”. Went back to the original article to read your excerpts in full context. I stopped to ponder the above. So do we believe from the above quote, that Terman knew of/predicted of the general thesis of the book, “The Son Also Rises: Surnames and the History of Social Mobility” (2014) by Gregory Clark, 100 years before Clark penned such?
It is an easy problem to solve. You just need to get genius chad and genius stacey ti donate gametes and make lots of embryos for surrogacy. Use ideological pressures to create a social contagion. And let average families know that raising a whiz kid will be a smart investment as they can leech off the kid's financial success as an adult.
Make a narrative about how cranking out an army of geniuses will help us reach civilizational milestones like very long lifespans, reuniting with dead loved ones, better leisure, better economics, better politics, etc.
Stop wasting average human capital. An average family can cuck out and raise genius kids from surrogacy, which is one of the greatest contributions they can give to society.
"It's not nice to tell people that their place in life is roughly where their genetics has placed them in the initial lottery, but a cynic might suspect this conclusion from seeing enough failures."
Reality is not always pleasant.
"What about the reality of the intelligence differences and democracy with universal voting?"
Democracy - That form of government that allows idiots to elect idiots. A meritocracy is far superior.
Indeed..I have analyzed in a somewhat crude fashion, the SAT scores for the last 60 years, mostly taken by college bound high school juniors and seniors, which can be found on College Board's website..While steadily declining overall, the differential between boys and girls' scores has remained more or less constant..On average, Boys are very slightly higher than Girls on the verbal portion, but about 40 points higher on the math portion...This explains why only 1-2% of programmers (code writers) are female...(Our kids have made careers in IT)...That is likely just an intrinsic evolutionary difference between the male and female brains...
Much more concerning is the steady decline in the scores of both sexes, despite attempts by the College Board to beef them up by awarding bonus points in 1995...In my experience teaching chess to kids from largely professional families, there are still some extremely smart kids out there...but those families, reflecting the trend, don't have as many kids...
Smart people don't need to have families, they can donate their gametes and we can make embryos for surrogacy/adoption of average famlies. Genius chad and genius stacey are the best candidates.
You can use ideological pressures to create a social contagion... Social contagions made middle class liberals can adopt chinese girls/african boys.
Tell average families that these whiz kids will probably get a high earning career and make lots of money for them to leech off of. And that cranking out an army of geniuses will help us reach civilizational milestones like very long lifespans, reuniting with some dead loved ones and better leisure.
Perplexity.ai points to (inconsistent) evidence that males show greater dispersion in measured IQ, which could give a superficial impression of males having higher average IQ if the lowest IQs are excluded from comparisons. ie the difference you observe could be a product of sorting (not measuring the left side of the IQ curve).
Perplexity cleaves close to the political status quo (rather than to scientific fact). I guess for 'median voter' reasons. My point was more that SAT scores, as a college admission exam, under-sample the left (lower) side of the IQ distribution.
Even if median male and female IQ is the same, to say that there is greater dispersion of male IQ implies that males are predominant at both both ends of the scale, and it's my understanding that this has been borne out in test results. That was also the understanding of Larry Summers when he said while addressing a seminar in January 2005 as president of Harvard that it more plausibly accounted for the predominance of men in top scientific positions than the alternative hypothesis of sexist discrimination. That landed him in hot water, and he abjectly apologized for his impolitic frankness.
I don't understand. If the activity is "power politics", surely the primary goal is for Larry Summers to lose his job, and the effect on which beliefs are or aren't part of the orthodoxy is the collateral damage?
The 'political idea' is that males and females are of equal ability. Summers presented a variation on that idea (ie male ability is more variable than females's so expect relatively more males of extreme ability [as well as relatively more males of extreme inability, though unfortunately I gather he didn't voice this]).
This presentation of the idea by Summers threatened the promulgation through the general populous of the 'political idea' of simple equality of male and female ability . Hence the need to cancel him (ie exercise power). Whether you chose to refer to the loss of subtly in the idea or on Summers' loss of his job as collateral damage is up to you, which is why I didn't specify which.
An interesting thing, my father received a DNA test before he died and his DNA was 28% Scandinavian, we did not know that until that time. The rest of his DNA was fully Western European, fully, 100%.
"The rest of his DNA was fully Western European, fully, 100%."
I also took a DNA test, with similar results: 25% Scandinavian and the rest Northwestern Europe. But I already knew that before the test, from my genealogy. The reason I took the DNA test was to expand my ancestral knowledge, specifically to discover cousins and thereby identify ancestors further back in time.
It may be better for the long-term fertility of the gifted if fewer of them were to be scientifically identified and, instead allowed to remain within the lower classes and to produce children instead of wealth. A case in point was Benjamin Franklin's printer dad whose great contribution to the society of New England, besides a market Independence of thought, was the fathering of 16 children including the world class genius Benjamin.
Just get genius chad and genius Stacey to become gamete donors and make embryos for surrogacy. Pressure average families to cuck out and raise them. Let them know that it is a smart investment to do so as they can leech off the kid's future financial success anyways.
Let them know that cranking out an army of geniuses will help us reach very important civilizational milestones like extremely long lifespans, and reuniting with dead loved ones.
Average families raising genius children is the biggest contribution they can give to society.
I am only atleast 1 SD above average... how can I compete with genius chad who is 6ft+, accomplished genius, taylor swift fan, blonde hair blue eyed with an ideal north european phenotype. I may as well cuck out and raise an embryo made from his seed and genius stacey's egg.
Emil's last paragraph implying a difference in IQ between men and woman: Perplexity.ai informs me there is none so I'm interested to learn more.
DNA studies suggest that locii influencing IQ are widely dispersed and not localised to the X or Y chromosomes. Though, certainly there are differences in behaviour between the sexes so, by implication, the differential expression of sex hormones affects brain development and thus might effect g. However without a direct measure of g, how can the comparison be made?
Perplexity.ai does point to (inconsistent) evidence that males show greater dispersion in measured IQ, which could give a superficial impression of males having higher average IQ if the lowest IQs are excluded from comparisons.
Richard Lynn devoted an entire edition of “Mankind Quarterly” to the argument of male vs female IQ difference some years ago. Any number of studies for and against were invited for submission and published, not just Lynn’s. IIRC, the general agreement was 3-4 points in favor of males. Since I really have never understood exactly how to rate/understand such smallish differences in IQ’s—100 vs 103, or 120 vs 123, etc. I called it a draw. ;-)
As I've said in a recently-posted reply to a previous message of yours, while greater dispersion of male IQ may not affect the median it results in male predominance at both the upper and lower ends of the distribution, which is clearly of more than superficial importance.
Interesting that people from Uganda and South Africa are so willing to believe that intelligence differences are genetic. Some Youtuber should walk around Uganda asking people about this topic.
So interesting. My cousin shared with me that he knew Terman at Stanford. My cousin was a founder of HP Labs in Palo Alto. In 2nd grade I was identified gifted in the 70s. I found a letter from the school district recommending I enter a gifted program at a different school. My father never showed me the letter or told me… I did skip third grade at that school.. but the tragedy was we moved our family. I went to a new school and they told me that you have to go to school with people your age and they put me back and I ended up with clinical depression in fourth grade. I maintained that depression until I was 21 and had a spiritual experience. When I was in college at 18, I was able to take tests and not study for them and just know the answers. In my own words I was grabbing the answers from the morphogenic field. I just knew them, the test answers in any field, either would hear a voice in my mind or see a picture of the answer or just understand naturally the gestalt of the subject matter and question.
I can tell you intelligence is vastly misunderstood. All under the false premises that we’re all equal, we’re not. We have equal inherent value as God‘s children only. Today there are false manufactured social pressures to focus on the least among us and forget about the rest.
“… social pressures to focus on the least among us and forget about the rest.”
Yep, and ironically as Terman prophesied, such misplaced pressures will inevitably result in a poorer outcome for the disadvantaged (least) among us. A fairly good summary of why can be read in Dutton’s book, “The Genius Famine”—again specifically acknowledged by Terman.
Get genius chad and genius stacey to become sperm/egg donors. Make embryos. Get average families to cuck out and raise them. Pair with a new ideology and create a social contagion.
Tell average families that their genius kid will get a high earning career early, and make lots of money for them to leech off of. And that cranking out an army of geniuses will reach civilizational milestones such as very long lifespans, better economics, transhumanism and better leisure.
It's tragic that HBD has been known for the last hundred years but it's still not accepted. On the contrary the penalties for talking about this well proven stuff are getting harsher and harsher.
Get our genetic cream of the crop to become gamete donors and make embryos for surrogacy/adoption of average families.
Middle class liberals can adopt chinese girls/black men. They can do a selective breeding social contagion.
Ha ha. Love Emil. It appears that the truth is, unfortunately for the left, Far Right.
Science just slaughters crappy beliefs once the evidence and explanation is there. Darwin murdered creationism which is a huge achievement.
We should be getting genius chad and genius stacey to become gamete donors and make embryos for surrogacy/adoption. Pressure average families to adopt these children, and that they will probably get high earning careers for them to leech off of. So it is also a great investment financially.
Let them know that cranking out an army of geniuses will help is reach civilizational milestones like reuniting with some dead loved ones, better culture, longer lifespans, new leisurely activities, etc.
“UNTIL recently there had not been, at least for hundreds of years, any marked tendency in the civilized countries for one class to produce more children than another.”
Wonderful “blast from the past”. Went back to the original article to read your excerpts in full context. I stopped to ponder the above. So do we believe from the above quote, that Terman knew of/predicted of the general thesis of the book, “The Son Also Rises: Surnames and the History of Social Mobility” (2014) by Gregory Clark, 100 years before Clark penned such?
Wow, just wow.
It is an easy problem to solve. You just need to get genius chad and genius stacey ti donate gametes and make lots of embryos for surrogacy. Use ideological pressures to create a social contagion. And let average families know that raising a whiz kid will be a smart investment as they can leech off the kid's financial success as an adult.
Make a narrative about how cranking out an army of geniuses will help us reach civilizational milestones like very long lifespans, reuniting with dead loved ones, better leisure, better economics, better politics, etc.
Stop wasting average human capital. An average family can cuck out and raise genius kids from surrogacy, which is one of the greatest contributions they can give to society.
Thanks for an informative article.
"It's not nice to tell people that their place in life is roughly where their genetics has placed them in the initial lottery, but a cynic might suspect this conclusion from seeing enough failures."
Reality is not always pleasant.
"What about the reality of the intelligence differences and democracy with universal voting?"
Democracy - That form of government that allows idiots to elect idiots. A meritocracy is far superior.
Indeed..I have analyzed in a somewhat crude fashion, the SAT scores for the last 60 years, mostly taken by college bound high school juniors and seniors, which can be found on College Board's website..While steadily declining overall, the differential between boys and girls' scores has remained more or less constant..On average, Boys are very slightly higher than Girls on the verbal portion, but about 40 points higher on the math portion...This explains why only 1-2% of programmers (code writers) are female...(Our kids have made careers in IT)...That is likely just an intrinsic evolutionary difference between the male and female brains...
Much more concerning is the steady decline in the scores of both sexes, despite attempts by the College Board to beef them up by awarding bonus points in 1995...In my experience teaching chess to kids from largely professional families, there are still some extremely smart kids out there...but those families, reflecting the trend, don't have as many kids...
Smart people don't need to have families, they can donate their gametes and we can make embryos for surrogacy/adoption of average famlies. Genius chad and genius stacey are the best candidates.
You can use ideological pressures to create a social contagion... Social contagions made middle class liberals can adopt chinese girls/african boys.
Tell average families that these whiz kids will probably get a high earning career and make lots of money for them to leech off of. And that cranking out an army of geniuses will help us reach civilizational milestones like very long lifespans, reuniting with some dead loved ones and better leisure.
re SAT scores:
Perplexity.ai points to (inconsistent) evidence that males show greater dispersion in measured IQ, which could give a superficial impression of males having higher average IQ if the lowest IQs are excluded from comparisons. ie the difference you observe could be a product of sorting (not measuring the left side of the IQ curve).
Greater male variance evidence is quite consistent. Every large study finds this. Some examples. https://inquisitivebird.xyz/p/understanding-greater-male-variability
I also found it at the item level when we recently made some new tests.
Perplexity cleaves close to the political status quo (rather than to scientific fact). I guess for 'median voter' reasons. My point was more that SAT scores, as a college admission exam, under-sample the left (lower) side of the IQ distribution.
If you care about intelligence, you should be doing your own thinking, and not relying on the false promise of AI.
Even if median male and female IQ is the same, to say that there is greater dispersion of male IQ implies that males are predominant at both both ends of the scale, and it's my understanding that this has been borne out in test results. That was also the understanding of Larry Summers when he said while addressing a seminar in January 2005 as president of Harvard that it more plausibly accounted for the predominance of men in top scientific positions than the alternative hypothesis of sexist discrimination. That landed him in hot water, and he abjectly apologized for his impolitic frankness.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/02/18/what-larry-summers-said
> That landed him in hot water, and he abjectly apologized for his impolitic frankness.
He also lost his job.
Power politics is a dirty business. Collateral damage is hard to avoid.
I don't understand. If the activity is "power politics", surely the primary goal is for Larry Summers to lose his job, and the effect on which beliefs are or aren't part of the orthodoxy is the collateral damage?
The 'political idea' is that males and females are of equal ability. Summers presented a variation on that idea (ie male ability is more variable than females's so expect relatively more males of extreme ability [as well as relatively more males of extreme inability, though unfortunately I gather he didn't voice this]).
This presentation of the idea by Summers threatened the promulgation through the general populous of the 'political idea' of simple equality of male and female ability . Hence the need to cancel him (ie exercise power). Whether you chose to refer to the loss of subtly in the idea or on Summers' loss of his job as collateral damage is up to you, which is why I didn't specify which.
Thank you for providing such an interesting and illuminating article.
An interesting thing, my father received a DNA test before he died and his DNA was 28% Scandinavian, we did not know that until that time. The rest of his DNA was fully Western European, fully, 100%.
"The rest of his DNA was fully Western European, fully, 100%."
I also took a DNA test, with similar results: 25% Scandinavian and the rest Northwestern Europe. But I already knew that before the test, from my genealogy. The reason I took the DNA test was to expand my ancestral knowledge, specifically to discover cousins and thereby identify ancestors further back in time.
It may be better for the long-term fertility of the gifted if fewer of them were to be scientifically identified and, instead allowed to remain within the lower classes and to produce children instead of wealth. A case in point was Benjamin Franklin's printer dad whose great contribution to the society of New England, besides a market Independence of thought, was the fathering of 16 children including the world class genius Benjamin.
Just get genius chad and genius Stacey to become gamete donors and make embryos for surrogacy. Pressure average families to cuck out and raise them. Let them know that it is a smart investment to do so as they can leech off the kid's future financial success anyways.
Let them know that cranking out an army of geniuses will help us reach very important civilizational milestones like extremely long lifespans, and reuniting with dead loved ones.
Average families raising genius children is the biggest contribution they can give to society.
I am only atleast 1 SD above average... how can I compete with genius chad who is 6ft+, accomplished genius, taylor swift fan, blonde hair blue eyed with an ideal north european phenotype. I may as well cuck out and raise an embryo made from his seed and genius stacey's egg.
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> There's not much difference between countries, not even the communist countries (China, Vietnam).
I can provide something that a Chinese friend of mine said to me once:
因为妈妈聪明，孩子才聪明
("Because the mother is intelligent, only then [will] the child be intelligent.")
Emil's last paragraph implying a difference in IQ between men and woman: Perplexity.ai informs me there is none so I'm interested to learn more.
DNA studies suggest that locii influencing IQ are widely dispersed and not localised to the X or Y chromosomes. Though, certainly there are differences in behaviour between the sexes so, by implication, the differential expression of sex hormones affects brain development and thus might effect g. However without a direct measure of g, how can the comparison be made?
Perplexity.ai does point to (inconsistent) evidence that males show greater dispersion in measured IQ, which could give a superficial impression of males having higher average IQ if the lowest IQs are excluded from comparisons.
Richard Lynn devoted an entire edition of “Mankind Quarterly” to the argument of male vs female IQ difference some years ago. Any number of studies for and against were invited for submission and published, not just Lynn’s. IIRC, the general agreement was 3-4 points in favor of males. Since I really have never understood exactly how to rate/understand such smallish differences in IQ’s—100 vs 103, or 120 vs 123, etc. I called it a draw. ;-)
As I've said in a recently-posted reply to a previous message of yours, while greater dispersion of male IQ may not affect the median it results in male predominance at both the upper and lower ends of the distribution, which is clearly of more than superficial importance.
Interesting that people from Uganda and South Africa are so willing to believe that intelligence differences are genetic. Some Youtuber should walk around Uganda asking people about this topic.