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air dog's avatar

Really hard to follow this story. Lots of different people are referred to only as "Hoiby", with no easy way to differentiate who exactly is being discussed. There's also a guy named "Marius", whose last name is unstated (but I bet it's Hoiby!). Marius seems to be important to the story, but I can't tell what his relationship is to anybody - except that the prince's bride was his mom.

A few more hints would be very helpful.

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Emil O. W. Kirkegaard's avatar

Good point. The first block quote about Høiby is about the mother, and the second about the son, who has his mother's last name. I have inserted a "[Marius, the son]" to clear it up.

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DayByDay's avatar

I remember Matte Marit also was a drug addict just from Norwegian media. I dont think you included that.

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DayByDay's avatar

I found it easy but I am Norwegian so…

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Anne Frütel's avatar

As the history of royals across the centuries does not exactly testify of their non-agressive or peace-oriented life strategies, one could even interpret it as another variant of assortative mating.

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Richard Arnopp's avatar

An insistence on "equal marriage" for members of European ruling families was never universal, and became fossilised only from the later mediaeval period onward, along with formal lines of succession. Before acquiring the flattering epithet of "William the Conqueror", Duke William of Normandy was commonly known as "William the Bastard", and his mother was reputed to have been a leather-worker's daughter of Falaise. Peter the Great of Russia was succeeded by his second wife, Catherine I, who had been born Marta Skowrońska, supposedly to a pair of runaway serfs. In its dying days, the institution of Monarchy is abandoning the exclusive, caste-and-status-bound customs of former times, which have come to be seen as anachronistic and even offensive, and reverting to the earlier pattern of "I'm the king and I'll have any woman I want".

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DC Reade's avatar

I've done a little reading on the topic at hand. It should be noted that the history of European royal dynasties reveals not only a high index of consanguinity in the official offspring, but in many cases a lot of unofficial offspring as well, from mistresses, and dalliances. Also, a disproportionate amount of Gayness in the royal lines. Also Freemasonry. Does that run in families, I wonder?

I've less well versed in the details of the European aristocracy--the Gotha, the Black Nobility, etc. An interesting historical examination, for someone with access to primary sources in a well-stocked library...

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Mushkelji's avatar

Interesting to note whether the loss of royal authority has become so great that parents no longer can even control their children and who they marry. In any other era, there would have been some sort of veto it blows my mind that with something as monumental as a royal lineage that these prince/princesses have a free hand to be reckless.

Also is that guy literally the black Rasputin?

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Frank L Marchi's avatar

I went on a school trip to Washington DC with Derek. His dad was an architect and remodeled my parents’ house.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

he considers himself to be a reptilian

Well would you look at the time—gotta be going!

(Thanks, Emil.)

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Bazza's avatar

Hooray for honest signalling in assortative mating.

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DC Reade's avatar

That Princess Maria Luisa and Durek Verrett story has some kick-ass Scandal Sheet value. Verrett sounds like the biggest occultist fraud--and the most successful status climber--since Jose Lopez Rega.* Durek Verrett is like someone who watched the film Six Degrees of Separation in 1993, said "hey! I could do that!" and found out that the game could actually work. That it was possible for someone to bluff their way to the top. The stakes in Verrett's story are relatively low compared to, say, bluffing ones way into a US Presidency. But as with Lopez Rega, Verrett pretty much started from scratch.

*https://www.americasquarterly.org/article/argentinas-forgotten-guru/

I've read a lot of history. Enough to learn that while most unscrupulous grifters fail, it isn't uncommon to find con artists successfully faking their way into the good graces of the wealthy. ex. https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/books/walter-kirnrsquos-lsquoblood-will-outrsquo-a-true-tale-of-glitter-and-gullibility/

So to me, the disconcerting part of this story isn't Verrett himself. I'm reserving my dismay for the gullibility of the prestigious names that I find praising him with the blurbs for his book. Gwyneth Paltrow, okay--but Paul Hawken? Really? https://shamandurek.com/spirit-hacking/

As the quoted praise refers only to the book, I'm presuming that's mostly how Verrett's CV references know of him. And, well, I dunno. New-age buzzword esoteric shamanistic self-help books are just not that great. I could write that shit if I felt like it. So could AI. The curriculum core of self-help books was written long ago, and in my reading, the cream of the classics--like Lao-tzu, and the Stoics--paid approximately no mind to appeals to the occult as means of self-improvement.

Text doesn't induce suggestibility nearly as effectively as video, but it is an edited product, and it can be edited to tell people what they want to hear, while hitting the desired note about the character of the author. The unwary can be persuaded by finding what they want to hear in a narrative that deserves more scrutiny. In that regard, the previously linked personal Wikipedia page includes some positively deal-breaking red flag warnings. Personal testimonies, by multiple people including family members, claiming to have been burned by him, or refuting his frequently extravagant claims.

One of the best features of Text is that it isn't the vanishing act that video tends to be, leaving the viewer only with a "takeaway". Text allows easy and precise line by line review, questioning, and comparison with other texts. Claim-checking, fact-checking. Assessing the credibility of witnesses. Beneficial for skeptical reflection and critique. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durek_Verrett

May the best Text win.

Durek Verrett's pitch is "Be Your Own Damn Guru." Which requires walking the other way from someone claiming to teach how to do it. Whether the lessons are Verrett's introductory rate of $10, or his premium level, a private lesson at $2000 for a 1-hour session.

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Ghost of Rurik's avatar

There are very good reasons for royal endogamy, which is unfairly discredited as “incestuous”. The consequences of marrying a low-class commoner are much worse than the potential consequences of marrying your 3rd cousin.

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Realist's avatar

I am one-quarter Norwegian. My paternal grandfather was born in 1870, Sondre, Oppland, Norway. He immigrated to the United States in 1880. I'm sure my Norwegian ancestors are spinning in their graves.

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LSweet's avatar

There is quite a bit of oddness and dysfunction within this “royal family,” but only one member/hanger-on of the family has his photo in this article.

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John's avatar

It is an open secret that Mary has the King “by the balls” (also to some degree the mother) and was largely responsible for the deprivation of nikolai and felix. I would be careful about being optimistic specifically about her; the young prince christian to a lesser degree allegedly has similar issues as marius . otherwise they seem like a very decent family.

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Brettbaker's avatar

So, Lord Miles invaded and becomes King of Norway?

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