->"Since I extensively read and process information quickly, my position on race has changed. . . . Fixation with race has also deteriorated my mental health, since I suffer from various disorders, and it is something I am no longer wasting time with."
I expect you'll have no luck dealing with Oliver because, to quote the famous South Park episode, how do you kill that which has no life?
A lot of what this guy is doing at RationalWiki applies to wikipedia editors as well. I've some done edits and even tried to create pages for up and coming conservative personalities. Professional wikipedia deleters of course steps in to delete anybody they don't like.
Trying to make factual and neutral statements on some pages like Charles Murray is impossible. You will get hounded. In the end I gave up.
I only do data edits like adding sortable tables, etc.
Let's let the smoke clear around individual personalities so we can see the main "Wiki" battleground:
Wikpedia.
Back in 2005 I suggested to Marcus Hutter -- inventor of the currently best-in-class top down formalization of AGI (AIXI) -- a monetary prize contest to losslessly compress Wikipedia. He liked the idea because it highlighted the optimal data-driven modeling embodied in Solomonoff Induction's aspect of AIXI. It also provided a tractable-size text corpus of high (relative) quality to advance language modeling.
My motive was founded on that optimal modeling with the added expectation that an optimal model of Wikipedia would necessarily expose identities and their biases -- even if those identities were not individuals but groups, whether deliberately conspiring or merely coherently aligned mobs of "obsessives". The Hutter Prize never really took off because it never received the respect it deserved as superior to the Turing Test hence never received the funding necessary to compete for mindshare among those now gone totally insane with LLMs.
This remains fertile ground still to be cultivated -- and not just in language modeling. See HumesGuillotine at github for a data-driven macrosocial modeling prize.
The City Journal article on smith contained libellous claims and has been removed from the website. City Journal will also be publishing a public apology.
Jordan Peterson talks about the story of Cain as being an analogue to all these mentally unstable losers who are driven by envy and resentment to destroy others. The worst thing about the internet is that those people are now empowered.
I wonder whether you could "pierce the corporate veil" with Rational Wiki. If a corporation has few owners and is set up for the purpose of shielding the owners from legal liability, it loses its limited liability. In that case, you can try for the owners' house. This gets into the extent of bankruptcy protection in the state. Lawyer know the details, since their fees often depend on these little details. You could check and see about a contingency suit, or maybe some lawyer starting out would do it for publicity.
As for Oliver D. Smith, if he is living at home, perhaps his parents are legally liable for assisting his unlawful enterprise, and the home is vulnerable to being sold for damages. Just informing the parents of this possibility might be helpful. In fact, has anyone told them what bad things their son is doing? They might be able to restrain him.
It seems bad but I guess they put tweet or blog links. Everyone can read and learn your real ideas.
《《I am a free speech proponent in the strict American sense of allowing most things that aren’t “imminent lawless action” type talk (really, see the link for various other obvious exceptions such as medical confidentiality). So I am in favor of repealing ‘hate speech’ laws of which Denmark has one. 》》
Thanks for this informative post. I had not heard of Oliver Smith, but had vaguely wondered what was wrong with Rational Wiki. The whole wiki-movement, while brilliant in concept, is tainted by concealed bias.
What a strange man.
I'm still laughing at this part:
->"Since I extensively read and process information quickly, my position on race has changed. . . . Fixation with race has also deteriorated my mental health, since I suffer from various disorders, and it is something I am no longer wasting time with."
I expect you'll have no luck dealing with Oliver because, to quote the famous South Park episode, how do you kill that which has no life?
A lot of what this guy is doing at RationalWiki applies to wikipedia editors as well. I've some done edits and even tried to create pages for up and coming conservative personalities. Professional wikipedia deleters of course steps in to delete anybody they don't like.
Trying to make factual and neutral statements on some pages like Charles Murray is impossible. You will get hounded. In the end I gave up.
I only do data edits like adding sortable tables, etc.
Let's let the smoke clear around individual personalities so we can see the main "Wiki" battleground:
Wikpedia.
Back in 2005 I suggested to Marcus Hutter -- inventor of the currently best-in-class top down formalization of AGI (AIXI) -- a monetary prize contest to losslessly compress Wikipedia. He liked the idea because it highlighted the optimal data-driven modeling embodied in Solomonoff Induction's aspect of AIXI. It also provided a tractable-size text corpus of high (relative) quality to advance language modeling.
My motive was founded on that optimal modeling with the added expectation that an optimal model of Wikipedia would necessarily expose identities and their biases -- even if those identities were not individuals but groups, whether deliberately conspiring or merely coherently aligned mobs of "obsessives". The Hutter Prize never really took off because it never received the respect it deserved as superior to the Turing Test hence never received the funding necessary to compete for mindshare among those now gone totally insane with LLMs.
This remains fertile ground still to be cultivated -- and not just in language modeling. See HumesGuillotine at github for a data-driven macrosocial modeling prize.
The City Journal article on smith contained libellous claims and has been removed from the website. City Journal will also be publishing a public apology.
Jordan Peterson talks about the story of Cain as being an analogue to all these mentally unstable losers who are driven by envy and resentment to destroy others. The worst thing about the internet is that those people are now empowered.
I wonder whether you could "pierce the corporate veil" with Rational Wiki. If a corporation has few owners and is set up for the purpose of shielding the owners from legal liability, it loses its limited liability. In that case, you can try for the owners' house. This gets into the extent of bankruptcy protection in the state. Lawyer know the details, since their fees often depend on these little details. You could check and see about a contingency suit, or maybe some lawyer starting out would do it for publicity.
As for Oliver D. Smith, if he is living at home, perhaps his parents are legally liable for assisting his unlawful enterprise, and the home is vulnerable to being sold for damages. Just informing the parents of this possibility might be helpful. In fact, has anyone told them what bad things their son is doing? They might be able to restrain him.
Emil, will you cut my bowl head?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jonathan_Kane
We live in a pathocracy.
It seems bad but I guess they put tweet or blog links. Everyone can read and learn your real ideas.
《《I am a free speech proponent in the strict American sense of allowing most things that aren’t “imminent lawless action” type talk (really, see the link for various other obvious exceptions such as medical confidentiality). So I am in favor of repealing ‘hate speech’ laws of which Denmark has one. 》》
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/07/will-the-real-emil-please-stand-up/
Thanks for this informative post. I had not heard of Oliver Smith, but had vaguely wondered what was wrong with Rational Wiki. The whole wiki-movement, while brilliant in concept, is tainted by concealed bias.