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John's avatar
Jul 9Edited

Over estimation is hardly surprising given majority tend to overestimate risk and immigration is viewed by most as risk. Add to that all minority groups have been afforded increasing prestige and visibility by progressives in recent years often at expense of majority (eg disproportionate roles in advertising relative to numerical size) and also many minority groups are also growing and rate of change feeds into perception. And minority groups tend to be younger and so more visible.

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True European's avatar

Funnily enough most western world inhabitants vastly overestimate the percentage of white people in the world.

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Piotr's avatar

The percentage for Poland seems to be severely underestimated. ChatGPT - based on ZUS, GUS, NFZ, Wikipedia, etc. estimates the number of foreigners at around 2.6-3.9 million, and the total population of the country at roughly 37.5 million. This puts the percentage at around 9% of the population of Poland (7-10.5%).

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AP's avatar

I'm inclined to suspect that social scientists hate and fear the people they study (which may be what motivated them to become social scientists?), but in the spirit of what you said at the end...

"This study is a reminder that one should look for general and neutral explanations before jumping to politically motivated theories of the outgroup=bad type."

...I'd entertain any general and neutral theories people might have.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

Would explain why so many people believe stupid things like that deportations would solve the housing market.

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John's avatar

They don’t really think this it’s just a polite way of expressing native preference and attaching it to something concrete where nativism had become demonised

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John's avatar

Also housing market operates on the margin ie it does not take huge numbers to skew pricing. You even see this in more liquid markets like stocks

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MamaBear's avatar

Why is is stupid? We’re supposed to believe mass illegal migration has little to no impact on regional/state wages, welfare or housing prices?

I look at where I live and see single and two family homes turned into boarding houses with multiple unrelated families living in the homes in violation of local laws and this has no impact on rents or anything else?

The laws of supply and demand are suspended when it comes to migration.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> Why is is stupid?

Read the OP.

> I look at where I live and see single and two family homes turned into boarding houses with multiple unrelated families living in the homes in violation of local laws and this has no impact on rents or anything else?

So they're using even less of the housing stock than their numbers would suggest.

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True European's avatar

A serious policy of deportations like Iran is doing with Afghans would make a difference to the housing market

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Eugine Nier's avatar

Um, not really.

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True European's avatar

That's 350k in a couple of months compared to Trump's few thousand in 6 months. There was never going to be a serious deportation policy from the Trump administration precisely because those Biden millions are consumers whose absence would create deflation.

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MamaBear's avatar

Deflation, increase in wages and definitely some economic pain in the short-term but we’d be better off long-term.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> There was never going to be a serious deportation policy from the Trump administration precisely because those Biden millions are consumers whose absence would create deflation.

Wait, I thought the complaint was that they were competing for American jobs.

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MamaBear's avatar

They do. They also are huge users of welfare and public services too. They also skew our politics and eat up too much political capital.

I don’t get the love of illegals. If they’re so great then let’s open thr flood gates. Why should Central Americans be the only ones who get to come here en masse?

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> They do. They also are huge users of welfare and public services too.

So your complaint is that they're simultaneously too hard working and not hard working enough.

> I don’t get the love of illegals.

Here's an idea. How about you try to focus on what's actually true rather than blindly repeating every argument that superficially supports your side.

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True European's avatar

Most American citizens seeking work are housed

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Zuriel's avatar

Interesting....🤔

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John Hines's avatar

Interesting. Requires much study!

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