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PRG's avatar

In my experience, there is a huge difference between blacks/Africans and "everyone else". If no or very few blacks are present in a given school, town/city, or workplace etc, diversity or composition of ethnic background per se makes very little difference. Culture and class do matter a lot, but the mapping between these and ethnic background is not straightforward and also changes over time (e.g. to take a US example, as more Hispanics are second- or third-generation rather than recent immigrants).

On the other hand, going from zero to say 15-20% black is a massive change in the energy and socio-political dynamics of the space. The great migration out of Africa is going to have much more serious consequences for Europe than the Hispanicization of the USA will for that country.

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Dietrich's avatar

Emil are there any good statistical resources for ethnicity/race and migrant crime in Germany? I got into a discussion not too long ago with someone who pointed out the unrigorous nature of their crime stats. For example, this person stated that a gang of neo-Nazis committed a string of murders (over a period of 10 years), and that the suspects of the case included migrants (when the real perps were ethnic Germans, but that hadn’t been established yet), thus, “suspect” rates are not the most accurate measurement. I imagine the best way to calculate migrant/non-German crime is to look at conviction rates, prison population, and crimes which involve witnesses/victims, such as sexual assault or rape. That, and the German statical agencies don’t seem to have ethnic/racial breakdowns of either “non-Germans” or “Germans” (the latter could be a Kurd with German citizenship/nationality, rather than an ethnic German or West European). Their system compared to the US or even the UK, is horrible and myopic to say the least.

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