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Roger R's avatar

This is my intuitive sense of things...

Women, especially intelligent women, put a lot of weight on what high status individuals do and say. In the vast majority of times and places, this has served them well. Because of the malignant and dysgenic ideology that we call "wokeness", this is *not* the case in the America of the last 10 years.

"I am following and repeating what all the good high status people say. Why is this not working out for me? Why is it not improving my love life? Why is it not making me feel more happy and satisfied?"

It's a totally reasonable reaction. And struggling to find good emotionally-acceptable answers is what's gradually driving some of them crazy.

There are people who report on the news regularly. They wear nice suits, they are immaculately groomed, they are unfailingly civil, they convey a sense of considerable personal success. They strongly and consistently promote a long list of progressive values that the low-status deplorables call "wokeness". Thus wokeness is good! I should try to be as woke as possible. This way of thinking does make a certain degree of sense, but it fails when successful public figures start promoting bad ideas.

Some men also think like this, but most don't. Most men set specific personal goals/desires for their lives, and try to figure out how best to achieve those *specific* goals/desires. For most men, this comes down to finding a girlfriend/wife, having a nice job or career, having good entertainment, simply enjoying life and/or finding a sense of purpose in life. The failure mode for men is over-indulging in things that are enjoyable in the moment but cause long-term problems. But they're not going to buy into an ideology that is clearly counter to their basic self-interest just because the people promoting that ideology are high-status. Men put *some* value in high-status, but not *that* much.

So ultimately, the main fault is with the terrible ideology that has taken over much of the west, causing many otherwise smart people to make bad decisions. Until our societal elites fully dismiss this ideology, it will be very hard/unlikely for things to improve.

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Schneeaffe's avatar

I think the intelligence effect on extremism is something that kind of has to be true if youre looking at high enough levels of extremism. To get *really* high extremism scores, you have to answer a lot of questions "correctly" from the POV of that ideology, and even extreme moods just cannot be this consistent without abstract aids.

Lower-intelligence people may be more likely to be "radical centrists", taking extreme positions in ways that *arent* consistent across questions - that seems to be what ERS is measuring.

Also, the ideological scales we judge extremism on are themselves based on abstract machinery. I think you could find political-question-aggregates on which stupid people are more extreme in either direction when looking at the whole population correlation (and I would like to see what those are), but still the *most* extreme on these scales would intelligent.

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