This is never going to happen: "politicians could be subject to lie tests during campaigns to ensure they were honest". The resistance will be so fierce that no amount of public pressure and scandals will be able to force this into legislation. Even if a revolutionary takes power from a corrupt government somewhere and promises to do such testing in future, it will be quickly buried or watered down to an extent that people in power will be able to live with it. Honest characters just do not climb the political ladder in any contemporary human society.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
I think the most likely result if we produce a lie detector that is 95% accurate is that everyone will behave as if it is 100% accurate and the more it is adopted the worse the results.
The second thing that will happen is that it will very quickly be retrained so that it no longer works, probably to eliminate racism, and will be used selectively, probably through interpretation by some expert, to increase the power of the institution administering the test.
There are an awful lot of laws that nobody (or almost nobody) really wants enforced. Some of them are leftovers from moral panics, others are effectively bricks that authorities can selectively throw at people they don't like.
But if *all* laws were strictly enforced, society would fall apart instantly.
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol No. 23 – Instilling Obedience . . .
That the peoples may become accustomed to obedience it is necessary to inculcate lessons of humility and therefore to reduce the production of articles of luxury. By this we shall improve morals which have been debased by emulation in the sphere of luxury.
I think this sounds like a nightmare. If we could start with leaders and work our way down to common people and criminals, it may be worthwhile because we could quiz leaders and do away with political prosecution. We could also ask attorneys and judges before trial if they have any dislike of the criminal or their beliefs before a trial. Basically, if we didn't test power every time first, we'd all be in trouble.
They are doing the same thing to Imran Kahn in Pakistan that they are doing to Trump here at home in the USA . . . The United States government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee . . .
Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion . . . Protocol XVIII – Arrest of Opponents
Criminals with us will be arrested at the first, more or less, well-grounded suspicion: it cannot be allowed that out of fear of a possible mistake an opportunity should be given of escape to persons suspected of a political lapse of crime, for in these matters we shall be literally merciless.
You know I'm kind of surprised none of you IQ researchers have looked into how the vaccine will affect IQ scores in the future.
Deaths are up. Many people's immune systems are malfunctioning.
Even if you don't believe it has any effect; let's go with the presumption. People that read news as opposed to watch were less likely to take it. People that can see through propaganda were less likely, as were right leaning people. What effect will this have in the not-too-distant future Emil "135" Kirkegaard?
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
> With this in mind, you might ask: is the technology worth it?
This is always a cruel question to pose - so what if the answer is "no?" It's a big world, and someone out there will still pursue it anyway.
The trick (if there is one) is to ask instead, Is there another technology that can soften the impact? Traditionally, circumstances that make people more stationary help dictators, and circumstances that allow movement help individuals. As long as it's possible for subjects to flee, and, as long as there's somewhere for them to flee *to,* totalitarianism can't completely dominate the future.
For the use case of prosecuting crime, I wonder how useful lie detectors will be when the crime occurred while the defendant is high on drugs or alcohol or both. For crimes like rape or assault, a lot of times the defendant is on drugs or drunk. Can the machine detect a "lie" when the defendant doesn't even remember what happened?
For white collar financial crimes, this is definitely useful though.
Given that all facial expressions can be put under voluntary control (as taught and learned in acting school), the data flow could be corrupted by so many false positives as to disrupt the net signal. I suspect that the same approach could be done for MRI data points, perhaps by thinking of something truly nasty that you did and are ashamed of. It's likely that they'll still have to beat the confessions out of us to make us stop mentally resisting the AI.
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol No. 15 – Ruthless Suppression . . .
The most secret political plots will be known to us and fall under our guiding hands on the very day of their conception. Among the members of these lodges will be almost all the agents of international and national police, since their service is for us irreplaceable in the respect that the police are in a position not only to use its own particular measures with the insubordinate, but also to screen our activities and provide pretexts for discontents.
This is never going to happen: "politicians could be subject to lie tests during campaigns to ensure they were honest". The resistance will be so fierce that no amount of public pressure and scandals will be able to force this into legislation. Even if a revolutionary takes power from a corrupt government somewhere and promises to do such testing in future, it will be quickly buried or watered down to an extent that people in power will be able to live with it. Honest characters just do not climb the political ladder in any contemporary human society.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
https://nordicresistancemovement.org/what-is-cultural-marxism/
I think the most likely result if we produce a lie detector that is 95% accurate is that everyone will behave as if it is 100% accurate and the more it is adopted the worse the results.
The second thing that will happen is that it will very quickly be retrained so that it no longer works, probably to eliminate racism, and will be used selectively, probably through interpretation by some expert, to increase the power of the institution administering the test.
There are an awful lot of laws that nobody (or almost nobody) really wants enforced. Some of them are leftovers from moral panics, others are effectively bricks that authorities can selectively throw at people they don't like.
But if *all* laws were strictly enforced, society would fall apart instantly.
The right to remain silent would become more important. Perhaps it should be applied to non-criminal cases.
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol No. 23 – Instilling Obedience . . .
That the peoples may become accustomed to obedience it is necessary to inculcate lessons of humility and therefore to reduce the production of articles of luxury. By this we shall improve morals which have been debased by emulation in the sphere of luxury.
http://www.renegadetribune.com/protocols-of-zion-protocol-xxiii-instilling-obedience/
I think this sounds like a nightmare. If we could start with leaders and work our way down to common people and criminals, it may be worthwhile because we could quiz leaders and do away with political prosecution. We could also ask attorneys and judges before trial if they have any dislike of the criminal or their beliefs before a trial. Basically, if we didn't test power every time first, we'd all be in trouble.
They are doing the same thing to Imran Kahn in Pakistan that they are doing to Trump here at home in the USA . . . The United States government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee . . .
Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion . . . Protocol XVIII – Arrest of Opponents
Criminals with us will be arrested at the first, more or less, well-grounded suspicion: it cannot be allowed that out of fear of a possible mistake an opportunity should be given of escape to persons suspected of a political lapse of crime, for in these matters we shall be literally merciless.
https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/protocol-xviii-arrest-of-opponents
You know I'm kind of surprised none of you IQ researchers have looked into how the vaccine will affect IQ scores in the future.
Deaths are up. Many people's immune systems are malfunctioning.
Even if you don't believe it has any effect; let's go with the presumption. People that read news as opposed to watch were less likely to take it. People that can see through propaganda were less likely, as were right leaning people. What effect will this have in the not-too-distant future Emil "135" Kirkegaard?
Unvaccinated people have a higher death rate than vaccinated people once you control for age. Not every silly thing on the internet you read is true.
Can you watch this and explain it to me then?
https://rumble.com/vqkhbt-i-am-not-misinformation.html
Take a look at this as well.
t.me/s/covidbc
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
http://www.renegadetribune.com/protocols-of-zion-protocol-x-preparing-for-power/
> With this in mind, you might ask: is the technology worth it?
This is always a cruel question to pose - so what if the answer is "no?" It's a big world, and someone out there will still pursue it anyway.
The trick (if there is one) is to ask instead, Is there another technology that can soften the impact? Traditionally, circumstances that make people more stationary help dictators, and circumstances that allow movement help individuals. As long as it's possible for subjects to flee, and, as long as there's somewhere for them to flee *to,* totalitarianism can't completely dominate the future.
terrible idea, sorry
100% accuracy is unproveable
compelled submission to a machine to judge you is testifying against yourself
For the use case of prosecuting crime, I wonder how useful lie detectors will be when the crime occurred while the defendant is high on drugs or alcohol or both. For crimes like rape or assault, a lot of times the defendant is on drugs or drunk. Can the machine detect a "lie" when the defendant doesn't even remember what happened?
For white collar financial crimes, this is definitely useful though.
I agree. State of mind at the time of the events the question is about will be crucial
Interesting article, but no need to spread anti-China nonsense. The guardian is hardly a reliable source.
Given that all facial expressions can be put under voluntary control (as taught and learned in acting school), the data flow could be corrupted by so many false positives as to disrupt the net signal. I suspect that the same approach could be done for MRI data points, perhaps by thinking of something truly nasty that you did and are ashamed of. It's likely that they'll still have to beat the confessions out of us to make us stop mentally resisting the AI.
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol No. 15 – Ruthless Suppression . . .
The most secret political plots will be known to us and fall under our guiding hands on the very day of their conception. Among the members of these lodges will be almost all the agents of international and national police, since their service is for us irreplaceable in the respect that the police are in a position not only to use its own particular measures with the insubordinate, but also to screen our activities and provide pretexts for discontents.
http://www.renegadetribune.com/protocols-of-zion-protocol-xv-ruthless-suppression/