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David's avatar

You should refer more to data from this substack Data Hazard. So about 5000 blacks were lynched. The crime stats show that of the ~200K interracial murders since 1968, about 75% are black on white. That's a cumulative total of about ~150K white getting killed by blacks since 1968.

https://datahazard.substack.com/p/interracial-murder

Nobody is for mob rule lynchings. But plenty of people seems to be turning a blind eye on the black on white murder that happens a lot more frequently. This is not counting assaults or rapes.

The US is continuing to pay the price for importing African slave labor. Long term, I think the US economy will become like Brazil's. There are a lot of racial hiring quotas that basically make the entire country extremely inefficient and non-competitive.

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Emil O. W. Kirkegaard's avatar

It's a great blog. I wanted to stick with the numbers from 1900, and I wasn't able to find any reliable deaths from homicide from then for some reason. Turns out the FBI and police didn't report things properly back then, and one has to do various estimates.

https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/1674424930665136131

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John Rawls's avatar

Even US Blacks are more good than avarage brazilian than in PISA.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-new-2018-pisa-school-test-scores-usa-usa/

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Paulo Cesar's avatar

Right, among other reasons, the main reason why the US will not become Brazil is that the US has a tremendous human capital advantage. As you say, even black Americans outscore Brazilians on PISA. US Hispanics, which are the largest growing underperfoming minority, vastly outscore Brazil and the rest of Latin America.

Then you have Whites, who are in the majority, and who score as Whites in Western Europe, and Asians, who are increasing due to immigration, and who score higher than Whites. The US is also just a magnet for talent around the world, and continues to attract Europe's elite human capital, even if overall European immigrants are small in numbers. The US was probably founded by some of the European groups with the highest human capital at the time, so this has been a trend.

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Eugene's avatar

We are continuing to pay the price for allowing communists to seize power of our Nation. Africans could be dealt with rather easily with the right Leadership/Regime. Instead, the current regime has made Africans the sacred idol of America, not to he criticized, but celebrated as they murder Whites.

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David's avatar

Thanks for the book recommendation from Turchin. I'll check it out.

And my point about Brazil is not about the work ethics of Portuguese vs Anglo-Saxon. It's about the overall demographics of the country. If current trends continue, the US will eventually become a hispanic plurality country. The black population won't grow beyond the current 13% but there will be ever greater transfer payments to them in the form of direct welfare payments and indirect non-productive government jobs (what does a diversity dean do at a university all day anyways?)

In the US, white males continue to marry hispanics females and producing mixed children. This is very similar to Brazil with a very large mixed race population. These marriages produce children whose IQs are below the white average of 100.

There will continue to be pockets of elite whites who do not intermarry (just like Brazil's southern states). But they will be a smaller and smaller share of the population. East Asians and South Asians will be part of this elite group in the US. But their numbers won't be as big as the hispanic population.

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David's avatar

Thanks for the link to the article. This confirms what I read in other places:

"The most common racial or ethnic pairing among newlywed intermarried couples is one Hispanic and one white spouse (42%). Next most common are one white and one Asian spouse (15%) and one white and one multiracial spouse (12%)."

The census projections for 2060 says whites will be at 44% while hispanics at 27%. I don't think these projects take into account the huge increases in illegal immigrations happening right now. The huge number of Central Americans and increasingly Africans coming across from the Mexican border will change these projections.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2020/demo/p25-1144.pdf

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João Pedro Lang's avatar

Are Hispanics in the US really demographically similar to Brazilians?

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James Thompson's avatar

Not appropriate to compare lynchings with deaths by natural causes. What are the comparable figures for murder?

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Emil O. W. Kirkegaard's avatar

Hard to find.

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Thoughts About Stuff's avatar

Lynching is eugenics.

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hybridconnection's avatar

A based take by a The Ukraine flag??? My heuristics have just taken non-trivial damage!

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Thoughts About Stuff's avatar

Based on the username you only need a very slight change to your heuristics: Ukrainians displaying their own country's flag to be patriotic should not be treated like idiot Westerners displaying a foreign flag to signal their progressive virtue.

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Emil O. W. Kirkegaard's avatar

Jurij is a Russian Jewish immigrant to Denmark.

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John Rawls's avatar

Vast majority of russian jews are actually from ukraine/belarus/poland/baltic countries. Therefore some jews may consider Ukraine as their fatherland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement

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Thoughts About Stuff's avatar

Interesting.

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R I's avatar

Awfully silly to measure evil by nothing but deaths caused. Is it silly to be “obsessed” by violent rape, when heart disease kills countless more? Is it silly to do activism against the death penalty when car accidents are a much greater killer?

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Michel djerzinski's avatar

Would be better to compare Tuskegee’s estimate of lynchings from 1880-1968, adjusted for recording bias, with b on w interracial crime numbers for some period, if those stats can he disaggregated so we can look at homicides alone

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Stig's avatar

If you plot the declining trend of "death by lynching" and the increasing trend of "black on white rape" you would see a corelation.

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