> Given the sample size of 263, correlations above or below .14 are p < .05
Needless pedantic comment: you obviously meant correlations with an absolute value greater than .14, the way I read your line is that only a correlation of exactly .14 would be statistically insignificant
I just discovered your Stack and commented on another more recent one, reviewing some of your older ones I came across this, so I know it's been awhile since this one was active.
I find a lot interesting in this one, and what stands out the most is the five OCEANS tables you open with, the top professions in the highest and lowest samples. Reason being, I have worked professionally in and/or completed advanced studies in several professions that land in both the Top 10 and Bottom 10 of fields in each of the five tables. And excelled in them all, not like they were poor fits for my abilities. Though, some were poor fits for my long term happiness and sense of accomplishment. But even in those taking pride in my work has always been important. The classic "if you're going to be a garbage man or janitor be the best garbage man or janitor you can be" work ethic.
This is one of the reasons I'm instinctively skeptical of the value of intelligence and other aptitude tests. I've always scored well in pretty much every area I've been measured and found it comes down to the basics of curiosity, effort, resilience, ethics and confidence. These traits aren't exclusive to IQ or any quotient scores. They are matters of character. And those possessing higher character will do well in most anything they endeavor to do. Test scores only provide a small insight about the totality of success and achievement in life one will experience. And why we should do what interests us most, not what a test result says we should do.
I wonder if this study could inform those career aptitude tests. I always took those tests and ended up with inconclusive results or job titles that I've never heard before and nobody in my area is hiring for.
Are "liberal political candidates" left wing in Estonia though? Seems like their biggest "liberal" party – the Estonian Reform Party – tends to be considered centre-right.
Sounds like NT/NF separation in MBTI/Jungian psychology/socionics (intuitiveness [mental abstraction constructs I can do anythingaboutanythingism as long as it's reduced to a variable or structural regularity]), episodic simulation, horiziontal associativity, temporal interpolation (patterned filling in of eventes), propensity for ''careness'' or ''emotional outcomes/allocentrism in overt displays of goodness/cooperative preference'' over ''material outcomes/allocentrism in the greater good of group values'/utilitarianism preference'') dimension followed by hard-work (episodic memory preference, discrete, tangible, observable, explicit experiences, do-exactly-what-the-non-immaterial-non-metaphysical-properties cookbook says, conservatism explicit sets of precedents as preference) and third latent dimension is just prefer tasks-with-people or tasks-with-objects as well as fourth latent dimension being systemization/thinking vs empathization (see things with ''abiotic'' properties and dead in process analysis vs ''biotic'' and driven by vectors of emotional affectance). Not to mention ''egoism'' in doing what's right (collectivism) expressed in different ways. Sixth latent dimension is introversion vs extroversion (inner vs outer world of material/conceptual objects registered as ''manipulable''). Seventh latent dimension is I-am-object-affected-by-world and preference for dynamics-explanations (empirical-derived mechanics) vs what-is-the-metaphysical-properties-of-world-and-their-interrelational-cascading-events (model-agnostic reasoned) which is differences in the value-sorting algo of the brain of action-state values in the executive functioning area (differentiated and weighted, vs undifferented and unweighted). With openness to experience correlating to trans-contextual thinking (retrograde analysis in abstractions) as well as intuitiveness (fuzzy-logic reasoning) and a lower preference for non-metaphysical properties in explanations of phenomena of the world, hence susceptibility to leftism.
perfectionism vs. tolerates disorder ... or single-tasking vs. multitasking (serotonin sensitivity?)
people-oriented vs. task-oriented (DMN vs. FPN ... CON vs. FPN ... mirror network A vs. mirror network B)
the external world vs. the internal world (DAN/VAN vs. the precuneus ... a mirror network vs. dmPFC and the precuneus ... CON (the external world) vs. CON (the internal world))
the dorsal stream vs. the ventral stream
the left hemisphere vs. the right hemisphere
xpressive/quick decisions vs. inexpressive (dopamine sensitivity ... the sympathetic nervous system vs. the parasympathetic nervous system ... Liveliness, F)
a planner vs. not a planner (FN: high activity vs. low activity)
8. openness to change vs. habitual behavior (mPFC vs. the striatum ... or the prelimbic cortex (PL) vs. the infralimbic cortex (IL))
9. defend vs. care (vasopressin vs. oxytocin)
10. fearless vs. fearful (serotonin sensitivity ... neuroticism)
affective evaluation vs. mental state attribution and self-regulation (CON vs. DMN)
episodic memory vs. episodic simulation (PFC: low activity vs. high activity) ... cognitive control, attention, working memory
many connections between dmPFC and the rest of the brain (intuition or thinking outside the box) vs. few connections between dmPFC and the rest of the brain ... memory retrieval
two mirror networks (high activity vs. low activity)
"A role for rostral prefrontal cortex (BA10) has been proposed in multitasking, in particular, the selection and maintenance of higher order internal goals while other sub-goals are being performed. BA10 has also been implicated in the ability to infer someone else's feelings and thoughts, often referred to as theory of mind."
Looks like there is a complex set of correlations between the factors. I wonder if an item-level factor analysis would have yielded a different and more informative factor structure than the big five for personality differences between *jobs* (as opposed to between *people*, which the big five is designed for).
I wasn't able to figure out how to scrape all the data from the shiny server in a smart way. And those are only selected items compared to the full list which you can find in the supplemental data. The results there are based on different bayesian priors but they are pretty similar so you can do the item analyses if you want.
> Given the sample size of 263, correlations above or below .14 are p < .05
Needless pedantic comment: you obviously meant correlations with an absolute value greater than .14, the way I read your line is that only a correlation of exactly .14 would be statistically insignificant
(I apologize for this)
I just discovered your Stack and commented on another more recent one, reviewing some of your older ones I came across this, so I know it's been awhile since this one was active.
I find a lot interesting in this one, and what stands out the most is the five OCEANS tables you open with, the top professions in the highest and lowest samples. Reason being, I have worked professionally in and/or completed advanced studies in several professions that land in both the Top 10 and Bottom 10 of fields in each of the five tables. And excelled in them all, not like they were poor fits for my abilities. Though, some were poor fits for my long term happiness and sense of accomplishment. But even in those taking pride in my work has always been important. The classic "if you're going to be a garbage man or janitor be the best garbage man or janitor you can be" work ethic.
This is one of the reasons I'm instinctively skeptical of the value of intelligence and other aptitude tests. I've always scored well in pretty much every area I've been measured and found it comes down to the basics of curiosity, effort, resilience, ethics and confidence. These traits aren't exclusive to IQ or any quotient scores. They are matters of character. And those possessing higher character will do well in most anything they endeavor to do. Test scores only provide a small insight about the totality of success and achievement in life one will experience. And why we should do what interests us most, not what a test result says we should do.
My takeaway is that journalists are terrible people (low agreb combined with low consh).
Do I know you?
I wonder if this study could inform those career aptitude tests. I always took those tests and ended up with inconclusive results or job titles that I've never heard before and nobody in my area is hiring for.
It can, but better to use the RIASEC approach.
Are "liberal political candidates" left wing in Estonia though? Seems like their biggest "liberal" party – the Estonian Reform Party – tends to be considered centre-right.
I assume they dealt with this in the Estonian translation of the test. Same problem for other languages.
Sounds like NT/NF separation in MBTI/Jungian psychology/socionics (intuitiveness [mental abstraction constructs I can do anythingaboutanythingism as long as it's reduced to a variable or structural regularity]), episodic simulation, horiziontal associativity, temporal interpolation (patterned filling in of eventes), propensity for ''careness'' or ''emotional outcomes/allocentrism in overt displays of goodness/cooperative preference'' over ''material outcomes/allocentrism in the greater good of group values'/utilitarianism preference'') dimension followed by hard-work (episodic memory preference, discrete, tangible, observable, explicit experiences, do-exactly-what-the-non-immaterial-non-metaphysical-properties cookbook says, conservatism explicit sets of precedents as preference) and third latent dimension is just prefer tasks-with-people or tasks-with-objects as well as fourth latent dimension being systemization/thinking vs empathization (see things with ''abiotic'' properties and dead in process analysis vs ''biotic'' and driven by vectors of emotional affectance). Not to mention ''egoism'' in doing what's right (collectivism) expressed in different ways. Sixth latent dimension is introversion vs extroversion (inner vs outer world of material/conceptual objects registered as ''manipulable''). Seventh latent dimension is I-am-object-affected-by-world and preference for dynamics-explanations (empirical-derived mechanics) vs what-is-the-metaphysical-properties-of-world-and-their-interrelational-cascading-events (model-agnostic reasoned) which is differences in the value-sorting algo of the brain of action-state values in the executive functioning area (differentiated and weighted, vs undifferented and unweighted). With openness to experience correlating to trans-contextual thinking (retrograde analysis in abstractions) as well as intuitiveness (fuzzy-logic reasoning) and a lower preference for non-metaphysical properties in explanations of phenomena of the world, hence susceptibility to leftism.
perfectionism vs. tolerates disorder ... or single-tasking vs. multitasking (serotonin sensitivity?)
people-oriented vs. task-oriented (DMN vs. FPN ... CON vs. FPN ... mirror network A vs. mirror network B)
the external world vs. the internal world (DAN/VAN vs. the precuneus ... a mirror network vs. dmPFC and the precuneus ... CON (the external world) vs. CON (the internal world))
the dorsal stream vs. the ventral stream
the left hemisphere vs. the right hemisphere
xpressive/quick decisions vs. inexpressive (dopamine sensitivity ... the sympathetic nervous system vs. the parasympathetic nervous system ... Liveliness, F)
a planner vs. not a planner (FN: high activity vs. low activity)
8. openness to change vs. habitual behavior (mPFC vs. the striatum ... or the prelimbic cortex (PL) vs. the infralimbic cortex (IL))
9. defend vs. care (vasopressin vs. oxytocin)
10. fearless vs. fearful (serotonin sensitivity ... neuroticism)
affective evaluation vs. mental state attribution and self-regulation (CON vs. DMN)
episodic memory vs. episodic simulation (PFC: low activity vs. high activity) ... cognitive control, attention, working memory
many connections between dmPFC and the rest of the brain (intuition or thinking outside the box) vs. few connections between dmPFC and the rest of the brain ... memory retrieval
two mirror networks (high activity vs. low activity)
"A role for rostral prefrontal cortex (BA10) has been proposed in multitasking, in particular, the selection and maintenance of higher order internal goals while other sub-goals are being performed. BA10 has also been implicated in the ability to infer someone else's feelings and thoughts, often referred to as theory of mind."
Very nice summary
Looks like there is a complex set of correlations between the factors. I wonder if an item-level factor analysis would have yielded a different and more informative factor structure than the big five for personality differences between *jobs* (as opposed to between *people*, which the big five is designed for).
I wasn't able to figure out how to scrape all the data from the shiny server in a smart way. And those are only selected items compared to the full list which you can find in the supplemental data. The results there are based on different bayesian priors but they are pretty similar so you can do the item analyses if you want.