> Well, for the benefit of this small minority of readers,
This was my first question; thanks for anticipating and answering it :)
Second question: what does this dataset say about the relationship between g and religiousness, and what does Jensen's method look like on that relationship? My dumb prior is that there is a negative relationship, which, coupled with the religiousness interaction, might describe a dynamical system with negative feedback that constrains the range of g over time (more religious people have more eugenic selection, but eventually the IQ drift that results from that selection turns down religiousness, moving back toward dysgenic selection) -- and you've just estimated some of the parameters of that system.
interestingly, it seems that relation is reverse in between countries. For example Northern Europeans have weaker dysgenic fertility but latin america has strong dysgenic fertility.
The fertility rate of Ashkenazi Haredim in Israel is higher than that of Mizrahi Haredim. About 7 children per woman versus 6 children per woman. This is consistent with your conclusion. People with an extreme ideology implement it more consistently as their intelligence is higher.
Thanks for an interesting and informative article.
"First, the intelligence measurement is poor to mediocre, being the 10-item Wordsum vocabulary test."
I agree; any spelling or vocabulary test is mostly a memory test, as little reason or logic is involved in language. At best, memory is only part of cognitive ability.
My guess is that the internet has attenuated or reversed the positive correlation of fertility and intelligence among Mormons. Mormonism is a demanding faith, and before the internet people tended to leave because they didn't want such a strict lifestyle. With the internet, most Mormons also have to square their faith with information they hear about the history of the Church. In my experience, it's the smarter ones that leave. When I lost my faith at BYU, my heretical friends were all at the top of our class.
Vast simplification all around for people's motives and how things have changed, but that is at least what I observed at BYU ten years ago.
Religious practice demands disciplined living. More intelligent persons value disciplined living and thus continue with familial religious practice; or they adopt it despite its absence in their parents. Disciplined living is associated with greater economic success, which in the current cultural milieu of low wages, high rents and access to abortion allows greater fertility.
Point for christians, is therefore high IQ correlated with certain disgenics patterns?
Note apart, one of my end goals in life is to know and write a book about which is the true complete racial taxonomy as I see some disagreements in race realist circles regarding jews, indians, arabs and american indians, any advice, wisdom or reccomendations you can give me for this project?
I have not tested this formally, but I don't think this applies between countries. It looks robust between individuals, though.
https://twitter.com/sebjenseb/status/1776542799598387543
without the actual data questions this is hard to make heads or tails of.
> Well, for the benefit of this small minority of readers,
This was my first question; thanks for anticipating and answering it :)
Second question: what does this dataset say about the relationship between g and religiousness, and what does Jensen's method look like on that relationship? My dumb prior is that there is a negative relationship, which, coupled with the religiousness interaction, might describe a dynamical system with negative feedback that constrains the range of g over time (more religious people have more eugenic selection, but eventually the IQ drift that results from that selection turns down religiousness, moving back toward dysgenic selection) -- and you've just estimated some of the parameters of that system.
interestingly, it seems that relation is reverse in between countries. For example Northern Europeans have weaker dysgenic fertility but latin america has strong dysgenic fertility.
https://www.sebjenseb.net/p/immigration-in-europe-dysgenics-in
More importantly, There is negative correlation in between IQ and religiousness. Therefore this process is self-destructive.
The fertility rate of Ashkenazi Haredim in Israel is higher than that of Mizrahi Haredim. About 7 children per woman versus 6 children per woman. This is consistent with your conclusion. People with an extreme ideology implement it more consistently as their intelligence is higher.
Thanks for an interesting and informative article.
"First, the intelligence measurement is poor to mediocre, being the 10-item Wordsum vocabulary test."
I agree; any spelling or vocabulary test is mostly a memory test, as little reason or logic is involved in language. At best, memory is only part of cognitive ability.
Whitepill
My guess is that the internet has attenuated or reversed the positive correlation of fertility and intelligence among Mormons. Mormonism is a demanding faith, and before the internet people tended to leave because they didn't want such a strict lifestyle. With the internet, most Mormons also have to square their faith with information they hear about the history of the Church. In my experience, it's the smarter ones that leave. When I lost my faith at BYU, my heretical friends were all at the top of our class.
Vast simplification all around for people's motives and how things have changed, but that is at least what I observed at BYU ten years ago.
Religious practice demands disciplined living. More intelligent persons value disciplined living and thus continue with familial religious practice; or they adopt it despite its absence in their parents. Disciplined living is associated with greater economic success, which in the current cultural milieu of low wages, high rents and access to abortion allows greater fertility.
Point for christians, is therefore high IQ correlated with certain disgenics patterns?
Note apart, one of my end goals in life is to know and write a book about which is the true complete racial taxonomy as I see some disagreements in race realist circles regarding jews, indians, arabs and american indians, any advice, wisdom or reccomendations you can give me for this project?
is the effect driven by small families or childlesness?
If you want higher intelligence in the population, one of the easiest ways will be to replace the bromate in bread with iodate again.