Aug 4, 2023·edited Aug 4, 2023Liked by Emil O. W. Kirkegaard
Probably better to do the residual for log(population) ~ log(nature index count), to adjust for population effects(as you used before in your paper on national mental sports performance and national IQ). The correlation seems to have increased in recent years(0.85 in 2022 nature index). Might also be intriguing to try factor analysis with the different subjects some subjects of study are surely more important for overall innovation that others, as your comment on the vatican city implied). Is the full country dataset for the nature index publically available for all years(only seem to see top 50 on the website for previous years)? Also USA was one of the top countries, so despite recent brain drain/immigrant selection from other countries presumably inflating these figures, americans seem to be pretty innovative(aligns with other results from PISA/PIAAC/TIMMS showing that when race/ethnicity is taken into account americans exceed most other countries(east asian americans exceed japan/korea/taiwan), white americans exceed most european ones(yes even when 1st/2nd gen immigrants are excluded).
Would be slightly better, but because the sample sizes are so large data, the difference should be quite minor.
I could only find the top 50 for nature index, which is what I compiled. Since the countries in the top 50 changed a bit, this dataset has 54 cases, but partly missing data. Suboptimal.
I got the data 2018 from https://akarlin.com/nature-index-2018/. And the current list by country is on nature's website. Unfortunately although you used to be able to generate lists for all included countries back to 2013 or so, the website has been updated, and archive websites didn't really help, so there's only three years with complete data(including the current year), unless someone downloaded the data for previous years. Only having the top 50 means that additional analysis(such as seeing smart fraction effects or looking at R&D spending/education level as additional predictors) will have less power.
Yes, the US has reduced scientific research as a percentage of GDP. And of the money spent, an increasing amount is wasted on soft science projects of increasingly dubious worth.
"My guess is that the US suffers from having a quite ignorant culture in general, with a focus on sportsball and making money..."
True. I suspect this materialistic ignorance is a lingering effect of the frontier life. In one of my ancestral lines, my great-grandfather was an illiterate homesteader of virgin forest; my grandfather had minimal schooling, was a subsistence farmer, and lived in a log house; my father spent his first 21 years on that subsistence farm, even logging a patch of virgin woods, and although attending school for only eight years became a successful businessman. My brother earned an M.D. and Ph.D., my sister an M.S., and I a Ph.D.
America's focus has naturally been on creating something from nothing. A young culture that is focused on seizing and developing the best piece of real estate on the planet does not easily grow out of its necessarily original ignorance.
This is why fish&chip shop workers in positions of 'extreme power' (jacinda adhern) illustrates the Kali Yuga so sweetly. They're showing what happens when we disobey cosmic hierarchy, which is hell (for those who believe we're all equal).
I wonder how much closer the USA’s innovation per capita was in the 1960s when it was 80% Northern European and 4% Ashkenazi. Now it’s just 42% of those combined.
I think Nordics are probably far behind in useless studies because they don't have many area studies. In any case, the post already covered the Nature index, which only includes natural science and gives the same result.
This cracked something wide open. The meme of the car racing off to the right of the freeway... The "Hey NASA, where are our jetpacks?!" indignation from Generation X etc..
The noosphere is, in my humble opinion absolutely commanded from the central position of the Vatican, and has been for the last thousand years. They control what can be 'let out of the bag'.
The priests, the Phoenicians with one ear in the heavens and one to the ground; they watch the stars, nothing is random.
'Climate change' for example, is the controlled changing of the *noosphere's* climate. Even now they speak in parables. 'Parable' from the Greek, parabole = comparison, just like the stories in the bible.
This is why Nils Bohr and others were unable to develop plasma physics as they could have, even though they realised there was a link to Eastern metaphysics and there were men (eg. Franz Mesmer) in the 17-1800's who knew about the 'electro-magnetic fluid' surrounding us that can be manipulated... but Einstein et al. were given encouragement to run science in to the ground. It's all timing. Big Bang is a theory, it can't be proved but takes the impressed mind and twists it, pretzel-style. They were waiting for the right moment (astrologically-speaking). They floor me. Holy smoke.
But slowly, steadily plasma physics is being drip-fed for those who can see it makes sense esp. from a metaphysic pov- ie. it is *absolutely theological* science. Literal 'Proof of God' so to speak.
Historically, Galileo etc. had to obey the church. No questions asked.
Pretty sure the reputations of those in the 'independent panel of leading scientists in their fields' will be on the Vatican payroll.
Anyway, this is why the most culturally-defining 'noosphere-constructing' documents MUST come from them. I could intuit it but didn't have any proof, nor knew where to look for it. So this was a real gift, thank you very much.
Interesting that Nordic countries lead the pack here, as well as in most social metrics, given that psychometrically there doesn't seem to be anything that special about their populations compared to most of the rest of Europe. Do you hbd types have an explanation for why these countries in particular function better than the rest of the world?
I dont think it can explain everything. For example Israel outperforms germans and anglos. Ashkenazis are genetically like southern italians. Additionally it seems southern europe are more good than east&south-east europe. Almost every slavic ethnic groups have more admixture of wsh than Italians or Iberians
IMO, counting commercialisation of scientific discoveries is legitimate and possibly even necessary. As someone who has followed EVs for many years, I've lost count how many "breakthrough battery discoveries" I've read about. What actually counts is making it happen and that is surely part of productivity in the "science productivity" discussion.
Probably better to do the residual for log(population) ~ log(nature index count), to adjust for population effects(as you used before in your paper on national mental sports performance and national IQ). The correlation seems to have increased in recent years(0.85 in 2022 nature index). Might also be intriguing to try factor analysis with the different subjects some subjects of study are surely more important for overall innovation that others, as your comment on the vatican city implied). Is the full country dataset for the nature index publically available for all years(only seem to see top 50 on the website for previous years)? Also USA was one of the top countries, so despite recent brain drain/immigrant selection from other countries presumably inflating these figures, americans seem to be pretty innovative(aligns with other results from PISA/PIAAC/TIMMS showing that when race/ethnicity is taken into account americans exceed most other countries(east asian americans exceed japan/korea/taiwan), white americans exceed most european ones(yes even when 1st/2nd gen immigrants are excluded).
Also smart fraction theory was supported(at least using the rindermann IQs), using the methodology from(https://www.researchgate.net/publication/366691469_Smart_Fraction_Theory_A_Comprehensive_Re-evaluation). Will post the results later today on my substack.
Let me know what you find.
Would be slightly better, but because the sample sizes are so large data, the difference should be quite minor.
I could only find the top 50 for nature index, which is what I compiled. Since the countries in the top 50 changed a bit, this dataset has 54 cases, but partly missing data. Suboptimal.
I got the data 2018 from https://akarlin.com/nature-index-2018/. And the current list by country is on nature's website. Unfortunately although you used to be able to generate lists for all included countries back to 2013 or so, the website has been updated, and archive websites didn't really help, so there's only three years with complete data(including the current year), unless someone downloaded the data for previous years. Only having the top 50 means that additional analysis(such as seeing smart fraction effects or looking at R&D spending/education level as additional predictors) will have less power.
Yes, the US has reduced scientific research as a percentage of GDP. And of the money spent, an increasing amount is wasted on soft science projects of increasingly dubious worth.
"My guess is that the US suffers from having a quite ignorant culture in general, with a focus on sportsball and making money..."
True. I suspect this materialistic ignorance is a lingering effect of the frontier life. In one of my ancestral lines, my great-grandfather was an illiterate homesteader of virgin forest; my grandfather had minimal schooling, was a subsistence farmer, and lived in a log house; my father spent his first 21 years on that subsistence farm, even logging a patch of virgin woods, and although attending school for only eight years became a successful businessman. My brother earned an M.D. and Ph.D., my sister an M.S., and I a Ph.D.
America's focus has naturally been on creating something from nothing. A young culture that is focused on seizing and developing the best piece of real estate on the planet does not easily grow out of its necessarily original ignorance.
This is why fish&chip shop workers in positions of 'extreme power' (jacinda adhern) illustrates the Kali Yuga so sweetly. They're showing what happens when we disobey cosmic hierarchy, which is hell (for those who believe we're all equal).
I wonder how much closer the USA’s innovation per capita was in the 1960s when it was 80% Northern European and 4% Ashkenazi. Now it’s just 42% of those combined.
There is similar pattern in here.
https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/which-european-nations-are-overrepresented
The Nordics are great on gender studies and other humanioras. Is it possible to look at just STEM?
I think Nordics are probably far behind in useless studies because they don't have many area studies. In any case, the post already covered the Nature index, which only includes natural science and gives the same result.
I always thought South Korea did worse than Japan, but this appears to contradict that idea. Maybe South Koreans just publish more?
Japan has 25 Nobel prizes (STEM) vs zero from South Korea.
South Koreans are late to the game, recall.
Well, homosexuality is a mental illness. You should read his article, you might learn something.
https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/homosexuality-is-a-mental-illness
This cracked something wide open. The meme of the car racing off to the right of the freeway... The "Hey NASA, where are our jetpacks?!" indignation from Generation X etc..
The noosphere is, in my humble opinion absolutely commanded from the central position of the Vatican, and has been for the last thousand years. They control what can be 'let out of the bag'.
The priests, the Phoenicians with one ear in the heavens and one to the ground; they watch the stars, nothing is random.
'Climate change' for example, is the controlled changing of the *noosphere's* climate. Even now they speak in parables. 'Parable' from the Greek, parabole = comparison, just like the stories in the bible.
This is why Nils Bohr and others were unable to develop plasma physics as they could have, even though they realised there was a link to Eastern metaphysics and there were men (eg. Franz Mesmer) in the 17-1800's who knew about the 'electro-magnetic fluid' surrounding us that can be manipulated... but Einstein et al. were given encouragement to run science in to the ground. It's all timing. Big Bang is a theory, it can't be proved but takes the impressed mind and twists it, pretzel-style. They were waiting for the right moment (astrologically-speaking). They floor me. Holy smoke.
But slowly, steadily plasma physics is being drip-fed for those who can see it makes sense esp. from a metaphysic pov- ie. it is *absolutely theological* science. Literal 'Proof of God' so to speak.
Historically, Galileo etc. had to obey the church. No questions asked.
Pretty sure the reputations of those in the 'independent panel of leading scientists in their fields' will be on the Vatican payroll.
Anyway, this is why the most culturally-defining 'noosphere-constructing' documents MUST come from them. I could intuit it but didn't have any proof, nor knew where to look for it. So this was a real gift, thank you very much.
And for the love of Goat, I did confuse you with Soren.
Interesting that Nordic countries lead the pack here, as well as in most social metrics, given that psychometrically there doesn't seem to be anything that special about their populations compared to most of the rest of Europe. Do you hbd types have an explanation for why these countries in particular function better than the rest of the world?
A serious culture producing serious people doing serious things for serious reasons.
("hbd types"?)
Are you trying to get our host canceled?;
I dont think it can explain everything. For example Israel outperforms germans and anglos. Ashkenazis are genetically like southern italians. Additionally it seems southern europe are more good than east&south-east europe. Almost every slavic ethnic groups have more admixture of wsh than Italians or Iberians
How isn’t exclusive homosexuality an illness of some sort? I suffer from it and it makes me neurologically infertile
Who said journals are a measure of innovation? The word doesn't even occur in my post.
Patents are a terrible measure. South Korea and Japan are in the top. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/patent-applications-per-million?tab=chart
IMO, counting commercialisation of scientific discoveries is legitimate and possibly even necessary. As someone who has followed EVs for many years, I've lost count how many "breakthrough battery discoveries" I've read about. What actually counts is making it happen and that is surely part of productivity in the "science productivity" discussion.
Rate of producing science? That's all my post is about.